Jesus was autistic!?!

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No. It's like trying to explain what a banana tastes like. Better to put a piece of banana in your mouth and see for yourself.

Thankyou MrMark,

It's not something I could easily explain to someone else.

If I want to know what a banana tastes like, it's clear what I need to do to understand.

If, however, I want to understand your experiences of being spiritual, it isn't clear at all what I need to do to get a taste of those experiences. Can you guys at least explain that?

No, there is simply no substitute for direct experience. You have to do the work. This is a good place to start: www.hsuyun.org Also, try to find a copy of a book called "Be Here Now" by Baba Ram Dass a.k.a. Richard Alpert. He hung out with Metzner & Leary.

(While I speak from direct experience on this issue, my words echo those of scores of Masters throughout history. This is not simply my opinion. It is understandable that people want wisdom and knowledge handed to them without doing the work. It just doesn't work that way. I could say things like "Infinite Bliss" or "losing one's self" but they're just meaningless words, mental constructs, like the difference between a picture of a cat and the experience of raising a kitten. (Actually, I have made a stab at anwsering your question. This is what it's like. It's the best one can do with such clumsy and awkward tools such as words.))

To me, faith is just a word. Experience lacks in terms of faith. People can read a book and put their whole life into it. But to me, I was born, which I believe, for a need of intrinsic knowledge to suppliment my curiosities.

No brain-washing here.

That would explain a lot.

No.

He made eye contact, liked crowds, and was sociable. There is no record of Him having a meltdown, only righteous anger at those despoiling the Temple. There is also no record of Him 'stimming' or any other obsessive/compulsive behavior.


Seems like a lame attempt by someone to raise his or her social status by equating him- or her- self with a Major Authority Figure, based solely on a presumed similarity through alleged perceptive/developmental disorder.

"See? The Greatest Hero in the Universe and I have something in common, so I must be great, too!" ... yeah ... right ...

There is no reliable evidence about Jesus and would even begin for form a basis for a diagnosis.

Silly!

All we have are tales from the Gospels. Second and Third hand stories at best.

ruveyn

I've held this opinion for some time. If he existed, he was likely quite eloquent and had a compelling personality but also had delusions about God talking to him and of being the prophesied messiah. Nowadays he'd likely be on medication and/or resident in a mental hospital.

As Fnord said Jesus was very socially skilled and poised, loved crowds, and was very much a 'people-person'. Lotsa sympathy, and empathy. Hardly autistic in personality.

The incidents in the linked article are not particularly autistic in flavor. Just normal kid stuff.


But one incident in Luke does make you wonder. That was the tale of "jesus among the doctors at the temple" in Luke 241.

Mary and Joseph and the whole extended family went on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem for passover. Then they all came home - and only then realized that the 12 year old Jesus was missing.

They found him back in Jerusalem hanging out with the elders at the temple and discussing theology on their level. The elders were all awed by his level of learning- since he was only 12 years old- on top of being an illiterate carpenter's son.

So that incident does show him as being a bit savant-like. And it also showed that his parents were a bit ditzy to not notice he was missing ( so they could have autistic moments as well).

But thats just one incident.

Not enough to hang your whole theory on.

Still, there is enough there to admit the possibility that a man named Jesus was born in Bethlehem to parents from Nazareth; that later in life he preached a message of goodwill and fellowship, but mouthed off once too often against the Religious Establishment; they in turn framed him on false charges, and convinced the Occupying Forces to make an example of Him.

The rest may be embellishments by His more loyal fans.

Sorta like the story about that fellow who was given up by his mother to a princess. He was raised by the King, learned all forms of courtly manners (and maybe a little "stage magic"), eventually rebelled against injustice and killed an overseer. He ran away to avoid arrest, married a woman to gain wealth (sheep, camels, et cetera), went back to the King to demand his family's freedom, and eventually made such a nuisance of himself that the king eventually to him to leave and take his family with him.

The rest may be mere embellishment by his more loyal fans.

Folks will believe what they want to believe, I guess...

Yeah, you really haven't been here long.

Forget about historic evidence the moment.
Put aside whether he even really existed. Or even if he existed whether or not he was the son of god, and so on...

Just treat jesus like he's a fictional character in a novel.

Does he strike a reader of the Gospels as being autistic as a character (like perhaps Sherlock Holmes, seems aspie to some readers, or the Rainman is obviously autistic to any moviegoer) ?

The answer would have to be a resounding NO.

You dont get an autistic feeling from him the way do from some historic figures, or some fictional characters in literature.

So right off the bat- the idea is absurd.

Then if you're gonna to try to assume he was real, and was not a conflation of several real people and then actually try to diagnose him from the distance of 2000 years- well you cant even do that for recent historic figures. So ofcouse you're descending from absurdity to evey deeper chasms of absurdity.

Sorry! See next post. My tablet is messing up. Or maybe my big fat fingers?

Last edited by wittgenstein on 09 Jun 2013, 5:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Jesus was awe tistic! In other words "only" a man that transcended his ego. Jesus never claimed to be the one and ONLY son of God. We are all children of God.
Of course the definition of God is contentious.