Top 17 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong

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conversion therapy.

I certainly disagree with iamnotaparakeet, but to insult and make fun of him is certainly uncalled for and is rather immature. Please desist.

http://www.pinguins.info/FRAMES/Evolutie_eng.html

My point wouldn't be any different if penguins evolved from reptiles. In fact, it is widely accepted that birds did evolve from reptiles. At some point, their ancestors would have used a body part or two (not necessarily wings) for a different function than its "intended" purpose causing the penguin ancestor to evolve into a penguin.

I'm not trying to say by this that I think homosexual behavior is the next step in human evolution, but that body parts, although they can become specialized, do not have intended purposes only current purposes. Human beings benefit greatly because many of our body parts are not specialized and have multiple functions like the hands, for example. Without our multipurpose bodies we would not be capable of culture or civilization as we know it or even as it could be.

Since my argument is based on the idea that the theory of evolution is currently the most plausible explanation for how things came to be this way, I suspect that you may not consider it valid.

I completely agree!

Poor child, gay children with homophobe parents, God help them.

hmmm, well..., you mentioned scripture posts ago and well, we all know where it comes from, the basic reason of your disaproval of gay relationships comes from the Bible and your religion, even if you haven't directly mentioned it, you have brought up things like "design". Using such arguments with a majority of people here that are not creationists nor they believe in intelligent design, would not have value for them.

My take here is that there is no evidence to support this antigay argument other than a belief system, Moses and Paul writings about homosexuality were written in a society, culture and time when there was ignorance about a lot of things, adding that, the practice being from other societies they hated, like the romans as one example, and being a patriarchal society, all of it which provide enough elements for Doubt.

Is it unnatural? nature itself and the human brain are complicated enough to actually say and claim to really know what is unnatural or what is not. Would Aspergers and Autism be unnatural as well? if so, is it good or bad, a cursed, a blessing?

Hmmm, I don't know, but, when someone is ridiculing your opponent's side, you seem to get amused, don't you?

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1Corinthians 6:9-10, NIV)"

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neither of your quotes are teachings of christ but rather one is an archaic law from the old testament (pre-jebus) and the other is the first letter from paul to the corinthians which, again, is not jesus and is someone who wasn't even a direct disciple of jesus but a convert post ascension.


so really, neither are teachings of jesus.

And this depends on 2 things:

1) Whether or not she promotes gay acts or simply the establishment of a legal relationship.

2) Whether or not she believes in a liberal theology.

If she does not promote homosexual acts then she can still arguably support homosexual marriage on varying grounds, such as reducing the number of partners that gays have(which leads to both less partners and less spread of disease), compassion(most Christians do not abide by Levitican law and it does not take a liberal theologian to see Christ as a kind figure), or out of a belief that married gays might make better parents than orphanages, especially given that neither of your quotes really are applicable to modern Christians outside of their personal dealings, unless either you believe that Christianity is all about theocracy building(which is questionable since early Christianity was not about seeking control of the government and reasonable arguments can be made for Christians abstaining from government), or unless you believe that Levitican law still holds in its entirety in which case the Jr. Bacon Cheeseburger is now a terrible sin.

If she believes in a liberal theology, then she could very well claim to follow the teachings of Christ but believe that there are culturally based corruptions within them and doubt the inerrancy of the Bible as a means for knowing the will of God. Perhaps you don't believe these people are Christians, but that doesn't prevent them from believing that they are so, and perhaps even better at the task then many conservative Christians. And of course, what skafater84 already stated.

This is why I'm not a Christian.

In my opinion, it doesn't seem very Christian of them. Whatever happened to turn thy right cheek, he who is free of guilt cast the first stone, respect thy elderly (Oh wait, that's passed from the old testament.) This Christianity all seems contradictory in itself.

Yes. It does.

Your relatives.



They weren't "designed" for anything. I thought that I handed your ass to you in slices back in your "proving evolution" thread. Accept it, jerk: your beliefs are rubbish.

You're slow in more ways than one.

For example, you've been slow to speak out against anti-gay violence in Nigeria and other countries. Personally, I think you condone it. Your kind are responsible for it, jerk. You should have been the first to say something against it. These lunatics might have listened to you. Instead, you let it persist. You let it worsen. It's a witch-hunt, man. Don't you realize that? Don't you realize that you've created a mad witch hunt with your crap? Don't you realize that people like you are responsible for this lunacy? Don't you realize that someone is in danger of being violently murdered for every second that you remain silent on the issue? You are a pathetic human being, interested in nothing but your freaking political agenda. There is no humanity in you. You're a partisan robot. You are a nothing. Next time you consider killing yourself, just do it. I won't miss you.

Some people actauly believe the parts of it that I left in the quote there. I heard each one used in an argument against Gay marrege, one way or another. Particularly in Christian churches.