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12 Mar 2017, 9:58 am

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I get it. You're saying western culture can be found in non-white countries. That's ok, culture originating outside of the west can be found in America. The melting of culture is a beautiful thing. My point is that Western culture started with white folks.

I don't believe anyone can or should own culture. Like all culture western culture belongs to the whole world but it's wrong to say there's no white culture. Us white folks even have our own music like this for example.

Bach's music was divinely inspired by the figurehead of a religion which predates the Western culture which it influenced. Christianity didn't start with white Europeans.

Of course, Western culture was never developed in isolation, not even in ancient times. Nor should it be isolated.

It would be especially hard to isolate Western culture from the Near East because the Near East is so close to Greece, as the name implies.

This is of little importance but I'm not sure if Western culture really predates the Abrahamic god. While Geneologies put old Abraham at around 1700 BC, the origin of the Old Testiment is much later, somewhere between 1000 BC and 600 BC when Judaism started seperating itself from more ancient religions, around about the time Western culture was starting up with the likes of Aesop followed by Homer.

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12 Mar 2017, 10:20 am

It's quite possible that "Western Culture" started with the Indo-Europeans, especially the branch which ultimately ended up in Europe and the "Near East."

They only thought of themselves as "white" as a comparison with other, sometimes nearby cultures, where the skin color was relatively darker.

The disdain for the darker-skinned cultures emanated from their very "alien-ness." There was a similar disdain for "barbarian" cultures which contained people of even lighter skin color than themselves.

Color prejudice came about because of "negro slavery." It was always much stronger and more complex in the Americas than the European version of race/color prejudice.

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12 Mar 2017, 10:28 am

^ Very true.

I'm sure Vivaldi was darker than I am but he was still Western.

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12 Mar 2017, 1:38 pm

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I remember reading about how all the different races were classified as different species. The African slavery movement was started by the Muslim world. I agree that alien cultures tend to not get along. The racial hierarchy was weird. Even among European population different groups hated different groups. The Irish were hated by Europeans to the point of letting them starve.

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21 Mar 2017, 6:03 pm

Student Allegedly Attacked Female Basketball Player Because Her Hairstyle Was ‘Cultural Appropriation’

Authorities charged a Hampshire College student with assaulting a member of Central Maine Community College's basketball team over a dispute about cultural appropriation. Really.

The Hampshire student, 20-year-old Carmen Figueroa, allegedly started a fight because the basketball player had braided her hair in a manner that upset Figueroa. She walked up to the visiting player—during a basketball game—and demanded that the player remove the braids from her hair, according to masslive.com.

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21 Mar 2017, 6:26 pm

That's asinine.....but that's not what most "liberals" think.

Only the really kooky ones.

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21 Mar 2017, 7:36 pm

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That's asinine.....but that's not what most "liberals" think.

Only the really kooky ones.

I have seen quite a few people not on this level, but saying white people cannot wear dreadlocks.

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21 Mar 2017, 8:04 pm

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That's asinine.....but that's not what most "liberals" think.

Only the really kooky ones.

I have seen quite a few people not on this level, but saying white people cannot wear dreadlocks.

Only the kooks -- like these?

Pitzer College RA Tells White Girls to Stop Wearing Hoop Earrings: It’s Cultural Appropriation

A residential advisor at Pitzer College sent a campus-wide email informing students—white women, in particular—that they should stop wearing hoop earrings.

Hooped earrings "actually come from a historical background of oppression and exclusion," wrote Alegria Martinez, according to The Claremont Independent. "Why should white girls be able to take part in this culture?"

The email was intended to serve as an explanation for the appearance of a message, "White girl take off your hoops!! !" on Pitzer's free speech wall. In her email to campus, Martinez identified herself as one of the authors of the message....

Another student, Jacquelyn Aguilera, also took credit for the message, and sent her own email:

"If you didn't create the culture as a coping mechanism for marginalization, take off those hoops, if your feminism isn't intersectional take off those hoops, if you try to wear mi cultura when the creators can no longer afford it, take off those hoops, if you are incapable of using a search engine and expect other people to educate you, take off those hoops, if you can't pronounce my name or spell it … take off those hoops / I use "those" instead of "your" because hoops were never "yours" to begin with."

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21 Mar 2017, 8:57 pm

Darmok wrote:

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That's asinine.....but that's not what most "liberals" think.

Only the really kooky ones.

I have seen quite a few people not on this level, but saying white people cannot wear dreadlocks.

being selfish is neither novel nor a mental illness, even if it's done behind the guise of cultural protectionism.

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21 Mar 2017, 9:09 pm

It's still kooky, and should be thought of as that.

You don't see this sort of thing in the general society.

Lots of this sort of crap happens on college campuses.

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22 Mar 2017, 7:07 am

Telling white students they can't wear hoop earrings? So that's one rule for one race and one rule for another. Rules based on race.

It seems like when the SJWs attempt to reduce racism they end up increasing it.

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22 Mar 2017, 7:19 am

College students violently protesting conservative speakers tend to come from wealthy families, study finds

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The analysis of who on these campuses is making it increasingly difficult to invite conservatives comes shortly after a disturbing such instance at Middlebury College. Earlier this month, controversial libertarian social scientist Charles Murray arrived at the Vermont campus to deliver a guest lecture. But the intensity of the student protests forced Murray and those who had invited him to move to a different section of the campus to continue.

However, student protesters disrupted that venue, too. When a Middlebury faculty member attempted – for Murray’s physical safety -- to escort Murray to a vehicle, a student mob physically attacked them.

After a struggle, which left the faculty member injured, they were able to get inside a vehicle, at which point students began battering the vehicle and jumping on top of it.

Middlebury is not an isolated incident. A study from the nonpartisan Foundation for Individual Rights in Education found that the number of reported disinvitations and demands that speakers be disinvited has skyrocketed in recent years — from six in 2000 to 43 in 2016.

Those who predominantly engage in such violent protests generally fit an identifiable demographic profile, according to the study by the Brookings Institute’s Center on Children and Families. The analysis found that it is predominantly upscale students from liberal institutions who are demonstrating illiberal values by protesting, and at times rioting, to force their schools to disinvite or cancel events featuring conservative thinkers.

“The quintessentially liberal commitment to free and open dialogue is indispensable for building mutual understanding and respect in a diverse society,” Reeves wrote. “The spectacle of rich, ‘progressive’ protesters refusing to hear a lecture on the roots of their own privilege; well, it tells you how much work there is to do.”

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22 Mar 2017, 5:23 pm

Darmok wrote:

BettaPonic wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

That's asinine.....but that's not what most "liberals" think.

Only the really kooky ones.

I have seen quite a few people not on this level, but saying white people cannot wear dreadlocks.

I was more saying the violence is not as common, but the stupid ideas seem common.

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24 Mar 2017, 6:35 am

The SJWs sure do love exaggerating statistics.

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24 Mar 2017, 9:50 am

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The SJWs sure do love exaggerating statistics.

The SJW stuff really is like the seventeenth-century witch trials, complete with "spectral evidence."

Here's a review of a new book by two people who have done a lot to expose left-wing lies on American campuses:

Everything You Think You Know About Campus Sexual Assault Is Wrong: A Review Of The Campus Rape Frenzy

The most terrifying book you will read this year isn’t written by Stephen King. It’s written by a lawyer and a history professor, and it will blow your hair back.

The book is The Campus Rape Frenzy: The Attack on Due Process at America’s Universities, by KC Johnson and Stuart Taylor, Jr. I cannot recommend it highly enough....

There are too many things to praise about this book in this column, so I think I’ll just focus on my favorite part — what it does to the faulty, yet oft-repeated, statistics in this area.

By now, if you have followed this controversy at all over the last few years, you have heard of “one in five” — the idea that one in five women are sexually assaulted on college campuses....

When you actually sit down and do the math, common sense would tell you that “one in five” is false. But as Mark Twain famously said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. But Johnson and Taylor don’t just rely on common sense—they actually do the research and find out how false this is....

The book is much more than statistics, of course. Johnson and Taylor do a terrific job highlighting the terrible abuses of due process on college campuses across the country, the find-guilt-at-all-costs mentality of many Title IX coordinators, and the sheer hypocrisy of liberals who once claimed to care about due process.

If you’re interested in these issues on either side, I urge you to read this book. After The Campus Rape Frenzy, it will be hard to have a serious conversation about campus sexual assault if you haven’t read this book. It’s a quick read and a tremendously compelling one. Johnson and Taylor have done a tremendous service for both the lawyers who practice in this area and the people affected by the terrible abuses going on at college campuses across the country.

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/03/everythi ... ape-frenzy

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24 Mar 2017, 6:49 pm

Looks like there are some racists at Gustavus Adolphus College in Minnesota who think "America is a White Nation":

Except ... the signs were posted by college diversity officials:

College ‘diversity council’ posts FAKE racist flyers

--The “Diversity Leadership Council” at Gustavus Adolphus College has admitted to posting racially offensive posters around campus after the school’s Bias Response Team received multiple reports on the matter.

--The signs urge “all white Americans” to report “any and all illegal aliens” because “they are criminals,” saying “America is a white nation” and it is the “civic duty” of such Americans to turn in illegal immigrants.

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8965

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