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13 Feb 2017, 1:58 pm

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I mean sensationalistic mainstream news no matter what acronym it goes by. Are these people defending ACA aware that the system is goning to collapse as is? How is it possible to separate race and religion from an entity whose entire regime is based solely on their race/religion? I'm not in favor of the ban myself, but for me personally I see no reason to attach all kinds of conspiracy theories and sensationalism to it.


Main stream media is sensationalistic because they call Trump out on his outrageous lies, like that the media isn't covering all terrorist attacks, or that there was massive voter fraud, or that all Syrian or Iraqi refugees are potential terrorists?
People who have gone without health care coverage know you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. What problems there are with Obamacare can be fixed.
It's against American law to discriminate against anyone for ethnic or religious purposes.


I mean news stories filled with hype to increase circulation. Fixing Obamacare was always the stated intention. It's only liberal hype that says healthcare is going to be wiped out altogether and millions will die overnight. And I guess since ISIS is a purely religious faction, it looks like they have the United States at their mercy, or lack thereof.


It's not hype, as the congressional Republicans had been talking about repeal without replacing it for years, and for years had failed precisely because of that. The Republicans had opposed any sort of universal health care because they have fallen for their own party line that undeserving people are living off of the tax payers, and worse, living off the deified rich.


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13 Feb 2017, 3:34 pm

On The Grammy's:


Designer of Pro-Trump Grammys Dress Is an Immigrant. http://tiny.iavian.net/f8yf


Sales Skyrocket After Joy Villa Wears Pro-Trump Dress To Grammys. http://tiny.iavian.net/f92e




Musicians ask Trump for money help after Grammys bashing. http://tiny.iavian.net/f90j


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13 Feb 2017, 3:51 pm

^ Don't follow the Grammys and don't know who this person is, but folks who stick it to the smug lefty entertainment establishment do make me smile. :D

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(Hope they had some fainting couches ready in the hall.)


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13 Feb 2017, 10:01 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I mean sensationalistic mainstream news no matter what acronym it goes by. Are these people defending ACA aware that the system is goning to collapse as is? How is it possible to separate race and religion from an entity whose entire regime is based solely on their race/religion? I'm not in favor of the ban myself, but for me personally I see no reason to attach all kinds of conspiracy theories and sensationalism to it.


Main stream media is sensationalistic because they call Trump out on his outrageous lies, like that the media isn't covering all terrorist attacks, or that there was massive voter fraud, or that all Syrian or Iraqi refugees are potential terrorists?
People who have gone without health care coverage know you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. What problems there are with Obamacare can be fixed.
It's against American law to discriminate against anyone for ethnic or religious purposes.


I mean news stories filled with hype to increase circulation. Fixing Obamacare was always the stated intention. It's only liberal hype that says healthcare is going to be wiped out altogether and millions will die overnight. And I guess since ISIS is a purely religious faction, it looks like they have the United States at their mercy, or lack thereof.


It's not hype, as the congressional Republicans had been talking about repeal without replacing it for years, and for years had failed precisely because of that. The Republicans had opposed any sort of universal health care because they have fallen for their own party line that undeserving people are living off of the tax payers, and worse, living off the deified rich.


I believe the original plan was to put things back to square one as if it had never happened, but now it's too late because it dragged out too long and what people used to have just doesn't exist any longer. And I think based on what Trump and Ryan have said directly, the plan now is to improve the catastrophically failing system Obama stuck America with.

If Trump leaves ACA alone, it is going to experience a catastrophic failure. It will completely collapse. Some people don't seem to have a grasp of this. As it currently stands, the healthcare system is completely doomed. If Trump removes it, it wouldn't make any difference, the result will be the same. That's what people don't seem to get. On its own, Obamacare is toast.



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13 Feb 2017, 10:28 pm

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Pardon me, but your math is wrong - Trump will be out when you're 22. :mrgreen:


not cozy with the thought of a thoroughly unhealthy 78 year old in office.


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13 Feb 2017, 10:44 pm

Darmok wrote:
^ Don't follow the Grammys and don't know who this person is, but folks who stick it to the smug lefty entertainment establishment do make me smile. :D

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https://twitter.com/Joy_Villa/status/83 ... wsrc%5Etfw

(Hope they had some fainting couches ready in the hall.)

I don't think anyone fainted,maybe passed out in a fit of laughter.That has got to be the fugliest dress I've ever seen.
I'd give Malania an A+ for style,she always looks classy like Jackie O.You would never see either of them wearing a monstrosity like that.She could have purchased dozens of billboards saying the exact same thing for what she paid for the one she's wearing.


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13 Feb 2017, 11:06 pm

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That has got to be the fugliest dress I've ever seen..

You must have missed the show. :mrgreen:

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13 Feb 2017, 11:11 pm

/\Glad I missed it.lol Are they going to let kids toss darts at the ballon dress for prizes afterwards?


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13 Feb 2017, 11:17 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I mean sensationalistic mainstream news no matter what acronym it goes by. Are these people defending ACA aware that the system is goning to collapse as is? How is it possible to separate race and religion from an entity whose entire regime is based solely on their race/religion? I'm not in favor of the ban myself, but for me personally I see no reason to attach all kinds of conspiracy theories and sensationalism to it.


Main stream media is sensationalistic because they call Trump out on his outrageous lies, like that the media isn't covering all terrorist attacks, or that there was massive voter fraud, or that all Syrian or Iraqi refugees are potential terrorists?
People who have gone without health care coverage know you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. What problems there are with Obamacare can be fixed.
It's against American law to discriminate against anyone for ethnic or religious purposes.


I mean news stories filled with hype to increase circulation. Fixing Obamacare was always the stated intention. It's only liberal hype that says healthcare is going to be wiped out altogether and millions will die overnight. And I guess since ISIS is a purely religious faction, it looks like they have the United States at their mercy, or lack thereof.


It's not hype, as the congressional Republicans had been talking about repeal without replacing it for years, and for years had failed precisely because of that. The Republicans had opposed any sort of universal health care because they have fallen for their own party line that undeserving people are living off of the tax payers, and worse, living off the deified rich.


I believe the original plan was to put things back to square one as if it had never happened, but now it's too late because it dragged out too long and what people used to have just doesn't exist any longer. And I think based on what Trump and Ryan have said directly, the plan now is to improve the catastrophically failing system Obama stuck America with.

If Trump leaves ACA alone, it is going to experience a catastrophic failure. It will completely collapse. Some people don't seem to have a grasp of this. As it currently stands, the healthcare system is completely doomed. If Trump removes it, it wouldn't make any difference, the result will be the same. That's what people don't seem to get. On its own, Obamacare is toast.


Back to square one? That would be going back to where millions of Americans had no coverage, wouldn't it be?
As a matter of fact, what we call the ACA or Obamacare, had originally started out life as a Republican plan formulated by the Heritage Foundation, which by the way, had started out it's existence to oppose desegregation and civil rights. That had been back during the Bill Clinton years, when Republicans lived in fear of left wing universal healthcare. No wonder the damn thing has major malfunctions, as it had started out as a Republican plot to counter a real remedy for the healthcare crisis. Obama, in his naivety, believed if he went with what was a Republican plan, then the right would support him. He should have gone for single payer. If Trump actually delivers on that, then I'll take back a lot of my criticism of him.


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14 Feb 2017, 2:28 pm

Russia fears Trump assassination.

Russian Insiders Fear Washington Establishment Will Assassinate Trump. http://tiny.iavian.net/f9km

From the article :

“The Kremlin is perfectly aware that Democrats want to use Russia to discredit and possibly impeach Trump while Republican elites want to use Russia to deflate and discipline Trump. The Russian government fears not only Trump’s downfall, of course, but also the possibility that he could opportunistically switch to a tough anti-Moscow line in order to make peace with hawkish Republican leaders in Congress.”

"Many of Trump’s Russian admirers also share his dream of “purging the globalist elites,” according to the article, another reason why they fear he will be targeted for assassination."

"Back in September, prominent Russian TV host and journalist Dmitry Kisiliov warned that the elite could assassinate Donald Trump because of his desire to build better relations with Moscow."


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14 Feb 2017, 2:41 pm

Russian MPs say anti-Russian agenda likely forced Flynn resignation. http://tiny.iavian.net/f9lg


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14 Feb 2017, 2:44 pm

Better check your "White Privilege".

Students wear white pins to remind them of white privilege - The College Fix. http://tiny.iavian.net/f9ks


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14 Feb 2017, 2:45 pm

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Russia fears Trump assassination.

Well let's see, the New York Times just tweeted a picture of Trump advisor Stephen Miller's severed head on a pike, so I don't know where the Russians would get the idea that the elite establishment might want to assassinate Trump.

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14 Feb 2017, 2:58 pm

Trump, GOP lawmakers eye 'illegal' leaks in wake of Flynn resignation. http://tiny.iavian.net/f9sp


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14 Feb 2017, 2:59 pm

Darmok wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Russia fears Trump assassination.

Well let's see, the New York Times just tweeted a picture of Trump advisor Stephen Miller's severed head on a pike, so I don't know where the Russians would get the idea that the elite establishment might want to assassinate Trump.

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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/8314 ... wsrc%5Etfw


For the record, I do not want to see Trump assassinated, as he is the President, and we on the left are the loyal opposition. But as Stephen Miller has dedicated his whole life to being a dick, with his opposition to gay groups, and ridiculing of immigrant and handicapped students back when he was in high school, I personally see no problem with his head ending up on a stick.


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14 Feb 2017, 3:01 pm

Darmok wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Russia fears Trump assassination.

Well let's see, the New York Times just tweeted a picture of Trump advisor Stephen Miller's severed head on a pike, so I don't know where the Russians would get the idea that the elite establishment might want to assassinate Trump.

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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/8314 ... wsrc%5Etfw



WTH?!


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