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25 May 2022, 2:11 am

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Well how come people never put governments into place where one leader does not have the power to decide themselves if there should be recession or inflation and leave it up to the people to vote on such important issues? Why give one person the power, compared to voting?

by and large, because the electorate are sheeple driven this way and that way by this wolf and that wolf.



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25 May 2022, 3:56 am

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ironpony wrote:
Well how come people never put governments into place where one leader does not have the power to decide themselves if there should be recession or inflation and leave it up to the people to vote on such important issues? Why give one person the power, compared to voting?

by and large, because the electorate are sheeple driven this way and that way by this wolf and that wolf.


And this happens on both sides of the political divide.



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25 May 2022, 3:57 am

it is very sad and apparently quite impossible. but we truley need a president not motivated by corporate influencers . :o


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25 May 2022, 4:07 am

add a congress and a judiciary to that list.



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25 May 2022, 4:25 am

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it is very sad and apparently quite impossible. but we truley need a president not motivated by corporate influencers . :o


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25 May 2022, 6:57 pm

Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Well how come people never put governments into place where one leader does not have the power to decide themselves if there should be recession or inflation and leave it up to the people to vote on such important issues? Why give one person the power, compared to voting?

by and large, because the electorate are sheeple driven this way and that way by this wolf and that wolf.


And this happens on both sides of the political divide.


But can't a group of sheep perhaps make a better decision by voting on a matter, compared to just one sheep (the President)?



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25 May 2022, 6:58 pm

ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Well how come people never put governments into place where one leader does not have the power to decide themselves if there should be recession or inflation and leave it up to the people to vote on such important issues? Why give one person the power, compared to voting?

by and large, because the electorate are sheeple driven this way and that way by this wolf and that wolf.


And this happens on both sides of the political divide.


But can't a group of sheep perhaps make a better decision by voting on a matter, compared to just one sheep (the President)?

IOW direct democracy, it is about time for that.



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26 May 2022, 8:54 am

New Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Biden approval dropping to 36% among all Americans and 28% among independents.



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26 May 2022, 10:52 am

No not loving Biden ..... and think he is responsible for decisions that has / is putting us into a
recession/ depression . But am pretty disillusioned with most politicians .


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26 May 2022, 12:29 pm

ironpony wrote:
Well how come people never put governments into place where one leader does not have the power to decide themselves if there should be recession or inflation and leave it up to the people to vote on such important issues? Why give one person the power, compared to voting?

There isn't a button on Joe Biden's desk that he presses to cause a recession and another he presses to cause inflation. Those things are the result of complex economic interactions.

Responsibility for controlling inflation falls to the Federal Reserve. This is kept independent of politics (as far as possible) because that leads to better governance. Because monetary policy is complicated, it isn't appropriate for the people to vote on it - better to leave it to the experts. That said, people can elect leaders who will give the Fed different goals if that is what they desire.

Are there drastic actions that other branches of government (the President or Congress) could take to significantly cut inflation? In short, yes - but these would have other ruinous consequences.

Direct democracy breaks down when it comes to complex issues that people can't dedicate large amounts of time to researching. Electing representatives who have similar values to us who we can outsource much of that thinking to is a better use of everyone's time.



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26 May 2022, 2:03 pm

Oh ok I see. Well if it's best left up to the experts, are they really experts if they are screwing up the inflation, causing it to become worse?



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26 May 2022, 3:22 pm

the money supply is not self-regulating. trying to regulate it is the best mere mortals can do. i'm just glad that the loathsomely sociopathic crowd that was running things into the ground up until '21 are finally gone.



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26 May 2022, 3:29 pm

I voted for him, but I don’t love people that I don’t know personally.

I don’t regret voting for him.



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26 May 2022, 4:33 pm

the OP seems to be ridiculing those of us who are not magas.



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26 May 2022, 4:41 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the OP seems to be ridiculing those of us who are not magas.


Ah. I can’t relate.



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27 May 2022, 5:13 am

am going to offer this in light of those of you whom still think your vote controls who is in office.
Do any of us have enough money to support a presidential campaign? So then who does ?
maybe the multinational companies that make weapons ? Whom is the elected official going to be beholden to ? Do any of these companies have a soul? are they interested in environmental factors.
the bottom line ( money) is their priority . Then the priorities devolve from there . They do not care if inflation exists . But we do benefit from some of their priorities infrastructure needs to be intact so
they can ship their materials and support about the country and the planet . They create jobs .
But at what cost ? to the common person . the USA has always had a basis in a Wartime economy.
creating one , being involved in one . The cost in bottom line is human life and welfare.
When finally Corporations finallly figured gas supplies were not going to last forever. And needed to preserve them for things they need . Someone decided to put gas more out of the reach of
commoners. And it had to be done in a manner that humans would agree to So a War was necessary.
But not everyone can afford a electric vehicle . But no company cares , so we are on the low end of the food chain compared to multinationals . Politicians that put humans as a priority will be when
the some of the violence in society may slow down . The media is complicit . Just look how we are being programmed by what we grow up with on TV ,in video games .People become numb to violence
And numb to bullying . These things are not just accidental happenstance . :roll:
by all means keep trying to vote better politicians in , if we can .But we need to be vocal about bad ones . :evil:

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