Ignotum wrote:
Ha! Quite a good description of both indeed. I think however that I prefer to use the word egalitarian more than feminist nowadays just because of how much the word has been trampled over and misused as of late (lookin at you damn feminazis ruining a totally good thing!).
True. Feminazis ruined feminism, which was once a good thing. They went too far. My fear is that MRAs will go too far in the same way. I think MRA started out as a very good thing but some MRAs could turn into MRAnazis.
I don't want to see MRA make the same mistakes that feminists made. But that's what I'm starting to see.
For example.
Feminazis are fear mongers. So are some MRAs.
Feminazis have a victim complex. So do some MRAs.
Obese feminazis expect men to change their beauty standards so they're attracted to short obese women. Some MRAs want women to change their standards so they're attracted to short guys.
Feminazis are typically young women in their teens or twenties who have depression and low self-esteem because they haven't yet achieved very much in life. Instead of pulling their finger out and making something of themselves, they blame their lack of success on the opposite sex. They even think the opposite sex is conspiring against them. This is compounded when depressed feminazis go onto web communities where they give each other support (which is good) and reenforce their biases (which is bad).
Some MRAs are young men in their teens or twenties who have depression and low self-esteem because they haven't yet achieved very much in life. Instead of pulling their finger out and making something of themselves, they blame their lack of success on the opposite sex. They even think the opposite sex is conspiring against them. This is compounded when depressed MRAs go onto web communities where they give each other support (which is good) and reenforce their biases (which is bad).
On top this they also blame their lack of dating success on the opposite sex when previous generations of men put a lot more effort into finding a girlfriend.
I'm not condeming MRAs and I'm not condoning feminazis. I think MRA is something worth saving which is why I don't want to see MRAs make the same mistakes feminists did. I don't want MRA to become just as bad as feminism. I don't MRA to turn into a mirror image, gender reverse version of feminism.
Well, I've personally always though the MRA movement was counter-intuitive to what it actually wanted to solve, which is identity politics. MRA's in my opinion can be just as cancerous as feminazis, just, as you mentioned, for the opposite reasons. Instead of ending identity politics by making rational decisions about someone regardless of their race/sex etc., they've just switched it around in the opposite direction which at the end of the day doesn't really solve the problem.