09 Oct 2018, 7:11 pm
So you're sad that educated people believe the world would be better off with some fascists dead? Sorry dude but that's been the party line of the educated since fascism was INVENTED.
The only good fascist is a dead fascist, unless of course they decide to just stop being fascist.
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09 Oct 2018, 7:12 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
this country does suck. If I could move somewhere else I would. I hate it here.
moi aussi. but like you i'm stuck here also, the inborn non-transferable talents one must have to succeed in amuuurica are precisely the talents required to be able to emigrate elsewhere.
Even if I could afford to move there’s no where Else to go this is the last grueling free nation on this planet, those who believe in the bill of rights have no where else to go.
I'm really going to hate myself for responding to you again but this ain't the only true "free country" in the world. Americans keep telling themselves that all the time because they refuse to acknowledge the real problems in their own country. There are plenty of other developed countries like Canada, Australia, and The UK that would give you pretty much the same freedoms and rights that we have.
Ok I'm done. Please don't go ape*** because I dared to disagree with you.
Name one other nation with the same or better gun rights? There’s non. Name other nations that have a law protecting freedom of speech?
Non of those nations you mentioned have freedom of speech or gun rights
09 Oct 2018, 7:13 pm
Of course none of that means anything whenever someone gets shot for saying the wrong thing.
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-Gem Tos
09 Oct 2018, 7:13 pm
09 Oct 2018, 7:25 pm
sly279 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
this country does suck. If I could move somewhere else I would. I hate it here.
moi aussi. but like you i'm stuck here also, the inborn non-transferable talents one must have to succeed in amuuurica are precisely the talents required to be able to emigrate elsewhere.
Even if I could afford to move there’s no where Else to go this is the last grueling free nation on this planet, those who believe in the bill of rights have no where else to go.
I'm really going to hate myself for responding to you again but this ain't the only true "free country" in the world. Americans keep telling themselves that all the time because they refuse to acknowledge the real problems in their own country. There are plenty of other developed countries like Canada, Australia, and The UK that would give you pretty much the same freedoms and rights that we have.
Ok I'm done. Please don't go ape*** because I dared to disagree with you.
Name one other nation with the same or better gun rights? There’s non. Name other nations that have a law protecting freedom of speech?
Non of those nations you mentioned have freedom of speech or gun rights
Actually I can name two that allow the right to bare firearms: Mexico and Guatemala .
https://amp-businessinsider-com.cdn.amp ... 20%251%24s
And freedom of speech?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom ... by_country
09 Oct 2018, 7:28 pm
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09 Oct 2018, 7:41 pm
09 Oct 2018, 7:46 pm
Well as I said before. Why should I personally give a flying **** about gun rights? I don't even like guns so I couldn't care less if I lived in a country that made them illegal for me to own.
As for Freedom of Speech? Most countries actually DO have freedom of speech. I don't know where Americans get the idea that they are the only ones who have that right.
09 Oct 2018, 8:06 pm
I guess "more ruthless" for the Democrats means successful assassinations rather than merely attempted assassinations.
09 Oct 2018, 8:13 pm
Darmok wrote:
I guess "more ruthless" for the Democrats means successful assassinations rather than merely attempted assassinations.
I hope the Republicans and the Democrats kill each other in a bloody second American Civil War and then once it is over and everyone is dead maybe they'll shut the **** up.
Of course I won't be siding with either side. I'll just be the sycophant who pretends to side with whoever emerges the victor to save my own ***. Assuming I don't somehow get killed in the crossfire.
09 Oct 2018, 9:06 pm
TW1ZTY wrote:
Well as I said before. Why should I personally give a flying **** about gun rights? I don't even like guns so I couldn't care less if I lived in a country that made them illegal for me to own.
As for Freedom of Speech? Most countries actually DO have freedom of speech. I don't know where Americans get the idea that they are the only ones who have that right.
As for Freedom of Speech? Most countries actually DO have freedom of speech. I don't know where Americans get the idea that they are the only ones who have that right.
On these forums, it comes up often that people in the UK don't have freedom of speech.
In the UK, there's actually "offensive speech" laws.
In America, we tolerate most hateful, offensive speech.
Also, unlike America, it seems like many countries ban "Holocaust denial" speech.
In America, we let people spew any crazy theories, like Alex Jones.
The biggest though, is that in America you criticize the government & politicians & religion.
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09 Oct 2018, 9:15 pm
LoveNotHate wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Well as I said before. Why should I personally give a flying **** about gun rights? I don't even like guns so I couldn't care less if I lived in a country that made them illegal for me to own.
As for Freedom of Speech? Most countries actually DO have freedom of speech. I don't know where Americans get the idea that they are the only ones who have that right.
As for Freedom of Speech? Most countries actually DO have freedom of speech. I don't know where Americans get the idea that they are the only ones who have that right.
On these forums, it comes up often that people in the UK don't have freedom of speech.
There's actually "offensive speech" laws.
In America, we tolerate most hateful, offensive speech.
Also, unlike America, it seems like many countries ban "Holocaust denial" speech.
Good for them!
But you could argue that we don't have true "free speech" in our country either when it comes to certain situations. For example a student in school is not allowed to argue with their teacher without getting punished for it. Also it is very illegal to make death threats or to threaten to shoot up a public place or to blow it up. You also are not legally allowed to discuss a court case when on jury duty, and a doctor can get into serious legal trouble for discussing anything their patient said to them in confidence.
I think "freedom of speech" is too broad a term because there really is no true freedom of speech even in our country.
But in other countries you don't get clunked on the head by the police and carried off to a dungeon to be tortured to death just because you say you don't like the queen or the prime minister or whatever.
09 Oct 2018, 9:20 pm
09 Oct 2018, 9:26 pm
Spooky_Mulder wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
In the UK, there's actually "offensive speech" laws.
In America, we tolerate most hateful, offensive speech.
Also, unlike America, it seems like many countries ban "Holocaust denial" speech.
In America, we let people spew any crazy theories, like Alex Jones.
The biggest though, is that in America you criticize the government & politicians & religion.
In America, we tolerate most hateful, offensive speech.
Also, unlike America, it seems like many countries ban "Holocaust denial" speech.
In America, we let people spew any crazy theories, like Alex Jones.
The biggest though, is that in America you criticize the government & politicians & religion.
I fail to see a negative here.
Same here!
"Oh noes! I have to live in a country where people aren't allowed to say hateful offensive things to me or deny the genocide of the Jewish people! Ohhh the inhumanity!! !"
09 Oct 2018, 9:37 pm
09 Oct 2018, 9:39 pm
America ranks ..
#1 in freedom of speech
#1 in freedom in media reporting
#1 in use of internet
according 2015 Pew Research ...
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