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14 Dec 2017, 9:25 pm

Both ideologies have produced many murders.....

That's my point----we should hate all radicalism, whether from Nazism, or from Stalinism.

Regardless of whether it's "left" or it's "right."



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14 Dec 2017, 11:04 pm

Too bad that the radicals are always the most vocal.


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14 Dec 2017, 11:40 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That's my point----we should hate all radicalism, whether from Nazism, or from Stalinism.

Should we equally hate a guy who killed 1 person and a guy who killed 10?

kraftiekortie wrote:
Regardless of whether it's "left" or it's "right."

Hitler had some 15 million bodies on his account. Stalin - about 25. Mao Zedong - from 45 to 80 millions, by different estimations.
There is quite a significant difference here, isn't it? Nazis are bad and Socialists are far, far worse.



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15 Dec 2017, 1:16 am

One is too many.



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15 Dec 2017, 1:22 am

XenoMind wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It doesn't matter if the "ultra leftists" killed more people than the Nazis. Both killed many millions of people.

Oh wow. How can it not matter?


whataboutism is a fallacy for a reason.


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15 Dec 2017, 1:27 am

SJWs have ruined a large chunk of my internet life and my trust in humanity. It's a prime reason why I left Tumblr, Fur Affinity, got banned from Fictionkin.com and a bunch of other places. Being someone with non-conventional views and beliefs that tend to offend the masses, I'm an easy target for those who see me as a threat to society and want to rid me.


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15 Dec 2017, 1:55 am

XenoMind wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
That's my point----we should hate all radicalism, whether from Nazism, or from Stalinism.

Should we equally hate a guy who killed 1 person and a guy who killed 10?

kraftiekortie wrote:
Regardless of whether it's "left" or it's "right."

Hitler had some 15 million bodies on his account. Stalin - about 25. Mao Zedong - from 45 to 80 millions, by different estimations.
There is quite a significant difference here, isn't it? Nazis are bad and Socialists are far, far worse.


That is the past.

SJW thinking or thinking with elements of it has a foothold in academia, the culture and “cool” corporations such as Google. Authoritarian rightist thinking or elements of it has a president and some big media. The illeberal left overall have more competence and youth and with that have a better grasp of evolving technologies.


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15 Dec 2017, 11:55 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
whataboutism is a fallacy for a reason.

You obviously don't understand what this word means.



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15 Dec 2017, 11:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
One is too many.

That's not an answer.
Should we equally hate a guy who killed 1 person and a guy who killed 10?



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15 Dec 2017, 11:57 am

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That is the past.

Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them.



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15 Dec 2017, 12:24 pm

MariaTheFictionkin wrote:
SJWs have ruined a large chunk of my internet life and my trust in humanity. It's a prime reason why I left Tumblr, Fur Affinity, got banned from Fictionkin.com and a bunch of other places. Being someone with non-conventional views and beliefs that tend to offend the masses, I'm an easy target for those who see me as a threat to society and want to rid me.


SJWs do indeed ruin everything. It's ok for them to talk s**t about whoever they don't like and mock their feelings (Usually by calling them "white male tears") but if you stand up for yourself against them, they'll shout "How dare you!" and are ready to kill you.
Some of them on this very forum like jrjones and his ilk have even told me I am not a true aspie because I don't align myself with the SJW mentality. :roll: Just because I am on the spectrum doesn't mean everyone on it is my ally. I am an individual at the end of the day, not a stereotype.



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15 Dec 2017, 12:32 pm

Warped reality.


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15 Dec 2017, 1:11 pm

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Warped reality.


It's not a warped reality. How is telling someone that they don't "see their place in the land of discrimination" not telling them they aren't a true aspie?



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15 Dec 2017, 6:09 pm

MariaTheFictionkin wrote:
SJWs have ruined a large chunk of my internet life and my trust in humanity. It's a prime reason why I left Tumblr, Fur Affinity, got banned from Fictionkin.com and a bunch of other places. Being someone with non-conventional views and beliefs that tend to offend the masses, I'm an easy target for those who see me as a threat to society and want to rid me.


I have also experienced this, though I refuse to leave any place. They can block me and ban me all they want but I will not let them bully me into leaving. I have been called racist and had lies spread about me, so that people I thought were friends said they were afraid of me because I was going to screenshot them and post the shots in my MRA and nazi groups (of which I've never been part of).

They said I was racist because I wasn't posting solely about institutional racism against black people in the US (I post about all sorts of stuff), oh and because I was wondering how an oppressor of the people from Haiti could suddenly be oppressed if they come to the US. I'm also apparently very misogynistic for saying that women can abuse men. I guess they see it as taking away from abused women's experiences??

I have found them to be the most ableist, racist, sexist, bigoted, hateful people. They demean anyone who doesn't agree with them, even black trans mentally ill people because the ideology is the most important. They try to play savior to them, or call them racial slurs or other insults. They refuse to debate, and it's like they cannot handle that I cannot see the world the same way as them. I have to base things on facts, on evidence, not on feelings... They do not like autistic people, in my experience. Even when the autistic person sides with them, they're just used, not cared about, and the instant they say something not quite right, boom. Gone.


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