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24 Mar 2016, 12:40 am

Everything isnt a media smear, Donald Trump isnt as perfect as you think he is. All you do is make excuses to hide the facts (just like how Trump does). Businessmen are greedy and lie a lot, so its not a surprise Trump wants to be successful in politics.. where greed and lies rule as well. He isnt the first to do it and certainly wont be the last.



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24 Mar 2016, 2:06 am

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Anybody that calls Trump Hitler is disgusting, like I said look at the body counts and I think Trump comes out on top. Trump is the peace candidate, chew on that.


Peace canditate... HaHa ...funny.



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24 Mar 2016, 2:23 am

Peejay wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Anybody that calls Trump Hitler is disgusting, like I said look at the body counts and I think Trump comes out on top. Trump is the peace candidate, chew on that.


Peace canditate... HaHa ...funny.


That's the state of American politics, neoconservatives have had a stranglehold on our country's foreign policy since 9/11 and Eisenhower was warning us in 1960 in his farewell address about this military industrial complex. They want another cold war with Russia, they arm terrorists who want to kill us to overthrow dictators who pose no threat to us. Trump is easily the peace candidate when compared to Hillary or Cruz, he seems to be more of isolationist and pro-American when it comes to foreign policy. He doesn't have any pretenses about 'humanitarian war' or 'war for democracy' as if those are good and just wars. If you don't want WWIII vote for Trump.



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24 Mar 2016, 3:36 am

Heck...how much worse could he be than Arnie or Ronnie Reagan or Dan Quayle



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24 Mar 2016, 7:52 am

Which Hairless Ground Ape for President?

Trump is the one American needs and deserves.

He who thinks he can rule without shedding blood is a fool. Machiavelli

Trump is hated and feared, unpredictable, and would slaughter ISIS and Sacred Cows.

China's exports have been in decline, which is spreading to raw material producers, Canada, Africa, Australia.

Trump had nothing to do with the worldwide economic decline.

The next President will preside over many bubbles bursting.

Clinton and Cruz have only been in politics. They will go with the largest bribe.

Trump has only been in business, he will try to salvage the most value.

Trump will defend and build the American Brand.

Cruz and Clinton represent the hog trough of political patronage. Offices and appointments are sold. Who gets contracts has to do with who gets paid.

It is why people spend more to run for office than the job pays.

Trump is not in the political business, and will appoint the best people for the jobs for free.

Trump is opposed by those who hold or want a political appointment, and have or want a contract to supply some goods or service to the USA.

Selling patronage and Laws to favor one company over others is what Trump has said he will end.

Also, no Bankers or Government employees went to jail over the crash of 2008. Bernie Madoff was the only criminal among tens of millions?

I think some people fear an investigation and audit.

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24 Mar 2016, 10:09 am

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24 Mar 2016, 11:21 am

Please continue to use this thread to discuss the Trump candidacy without making personal attacks on other WP members.



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24 Mar 2016, 12:31 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Peejay wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
andrethemoogle wrote:
Anybody that calls Trump Hitler is disgusting, like I said look at the body counts and I think Trump comes out on top. Trump is the peace candidate, chew on that.


Peace canditate... HaHa ...funny.


That's the state of American politics, neoconservatives have had a stranglehold on our country's foreign policy since 9/11 and Eisenhower was warning us in 1960 in his farewell address about this military industrial complex. They want another cold war with Russia, they arm terrorists who want to kill us to overthrow dictators who pose no threat to us. Trump is easily the peace candidate when compared to Hillary or Cruz, he seems to be more of isolationist and pro-American when it comes to foreign policy. He doesn't have any pretenses about 'humanitarian war' or 'war for democracy' as if those are good and just wars. If you don't want WWIII vote for Trump.


I seem to recall Trump saying he was going to destroy ISIS, and seize their oil. He can't do that without war.


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24 Mar 2016, 12:32 pm

In other words, we should behave better than the candidates we're discussing.


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24 Mar 2016, 12:39 pm

Trump laid out his non-interventionist foreign policy the other day to the Washington Post editorial board. Trump questioned the US's role in NATO which isn't something I think any frontrunning candidate has done since it's creation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ge%2Fstory

he's the peace candidate, Hillary is the WAR candidate



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24 Mar 2016, 1:00 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Trump laid out his non-interventionist foreign policy the other day to the Washington Post editorial board. Trump questioned the US's role in NATO which isn't something I think any frontrunning candidate has done since it's creation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ge%2Fstory

he's the peace candidate, Hillary is the WAR candidate

Um,no.He sure doesn't sound very peaceful in this quote.
http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/trump-nuc ... pons-isis/


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24 Mar 2016, 1:06 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Trump laid out his non-interventionist foreign policy the other day to the Washington Post editorial board. Trump questioned the US's role in NATO which isn't something I think any frontrunning candidate has done since it's creation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ge%2Fstory

he's the peace candidate, Hillary is the WAR candidate


Woodrow Wilson had also campaigned as the peace candidate, but not only ended up getting us into WWI, was responsible for a "peace" that only set the stage for a far worse war, and had been responsible for a wartime domestic policy that betrayed every progressive ideal he claimed he believed in.
I know, I know, women got the right to vote under his administration. But in truth, that was probably Mrs. Wilson who did that, as Woody was virtually a vegetable by that time.


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24 Mar 2016, 1:28 pm

Honestly, you can blame Woodrow Wilson for his racist views.

But you can't blame him for US entry into WW I. It was a necessary act.

I believe it would be a BIG mistake for our nation to become Isolationist vis-à-vis the world.



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24 Mar 2016, 1:34 pm

I just don't see Trump as a peacemaker.
https://www.facebook.com/moveon/videos/ ... 831090493/


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24 Mar 2016, 6:11 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Honestly, you can blame Woodrow Wilson for his racist views.

But you can't blame him for US entry into WW I. It was a necessary act.

I believe it would be a BIG mistake for our nation to become Isolationist vis-à-vis the world.


Woodrow Wilson straight up lied in 1916 to get elected, his slogan was something like "he kept us out of war" and he was the one that started this whole war from democracy crap. Wilsonian, Trotskyite, and neoconservative foreign policy are pretty similar. How was US entry into WWI necessary? Do you even know who and why we were fighting? Most people don't, how does the assassination of the Archduke of Austria-Hungary throw the entire world into war?

If the US didn't get involved in WWI, then WWII and the Nazis might not of happened. They would of had to negotiate a fair peace deal or they would collapsed into revolution against the ruling monarchies or republican governments. France was very close to having a communist revolution during WWI IIRC. Why we can't involved in the first place is completely dubious, the Zimmerman telegram and the sinking of the Lusitania which was carrying tons and tons of guns and munitions to the UK were hardly reasons to go to war.



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24 Mar 2016, 7:18 pm

Britain and France want to steal the Turkish Empire, but Germany is their friend.

So they look for an excuse to declare war, and send in Australians, Canadians, and Americans to die for the Glory of Real Governments.

No one expected the Germans to hold out so well.

We have to do what they say because they are Lords.

We fought the wrong people in both wars. The Eternal Anglo is a beady eyed rat who will stoop to disgusting lows to destroy what they cannot control.

The end results of the wars were the end of the British and French Colonial System of slavery in place.

Then we got suckered into Indo China, who were seeking freedom from the French.

The Great Wars of the last hundred years were caused by a couple of old Euro Whores.

The problems of the Middle East come directly from British and French Mandates.

In the next war we should nuke them first.