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10 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm

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Again you miss the point.


She's good at that. Wait till she gets going!


wow....

he still hasnt made that pivotal connection between his two disconjointed points........ that would give any relevance.... we've already dis


team up all you want... lol

i know who's missing more points.


Um... How can you know what your missing?? That's logically impossible.


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10 Aug 2007, 4:44 pm

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Now tell me how you came to the conclusion that I hate men.

Still waiting.



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10 Aug 2007, 4:48 pm

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even kids with 180 IQ do not have the ability to rationalize these things anymore than the mentally ret*d.

Bwahahahaha!! ! :lol:



since when does intelligence encompass wisdom and the ability to deduce such things......

w/e


BECAUSE I specified that the particular child would be emotionally an adult, meaning with full adult wisdom. You are SO DENSE sometimes!! !


what does that matter cause that's not how REALITY works


and i must have missed that stipulation...... sorry


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10 Aug 2007, 4:48 pm

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Well, likewise, I'm not against you because you're attracted to women, I'm against your blindness in thinking it's right.

I don't think it's right to be attracted to women.
It's not right or wrong. It just is.


Well then why do you act like we should all just step aside for you? If nothing's right or wrong, then majority rules, which means you lose. You don't really want to play by those rules, do you?


that;s illogical.... and besides the point

sexual orientation is not wrong or right... but that is no basis for denying a person for being either... if anything, it's a reason not to...

if it's neither wrong nor right... then it's just cruel to deny someone something

it shouldnt be about majority

that's the point


Preventing something that's neither right nor wrong is, therefore, in itself neither right nor wrong. Do you even have a moral code? I do, and mine has been in print for two thousand years. How long has yours been in print, or has it even made it to that stage yet?


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10 Aug 2007, 4:49 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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Again you miss the point.


She's good at that. Wait till she gets going!


wow....

he still hasnt made that pivotal connection between his two disconjointed points........ that would give any relevance.... we've already dis


team up all you want... lol

i know who's missing more points.


Um... How can you know what your missing?? That's logically impossible.


i dont...

but if i tally all the points that I CATCH YOU MISSING vs the few you CATCH ME MISSING


the numbers fall in my favor

that's all the logic i need


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10 Aug 2007, 4:50 pm

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Preventing something that's neither right nor wrong is, therefore, in itself neither right nor wrong.

BS. I want to go and get something to eat in a minute. It's neither right or wrong for me to do that as I don't need to and I'm not harming anyone by doing it. It would be wrong for you to stop me doing that though.



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10 Aug 2007, 4:50 pm

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I called you a moron, once, in private, but I never damned you to Hell. And I think you've well paid me back for that by calling me a dolt just now. Still settin' the ol' example for young Kilroy, eh teacher? :lol:


you've proven we're not above name calling and so i doso as well....... and if you wanna go tit for tat... you would win by far for all the names you have called me in this thread alone...

Oh, that is such bull!! You told me to go to hell yesterday.


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10 Aug 2007, 4:52 pm

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that's why it's also laughable that you just write it off because it's "sick"


I admit that was a euphamism. I used it since you can't understand the concept of "evil".


and you cant understand the conept of a discussion which requires more than smart alec remarks......

even substituing in "Evi" doesnt take away from my comment regrading the depth and breadth for your regard on why it's wrong to have sex with a child...

and yet again... you dont address it


Deaf people hear no words. What more can I do? :?


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10 Aug 2007, 4:53 pm

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But that's how you view Christians -- you've written such many times.


generalizations FTL!

Exactly! Stop broadbrushing us.

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you're the one who hates all gays ect


I don't hate a single gay person. I love gay people. I want them to go to Heaven with me.



- again...... right now... all my disdain is conceptrated on you

- purely based on an assumption that isn't going to happen


(No speaka de gibberish. PLz trenzlete.)


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Deaf people hear no words. What more can I do? :?

uhm
Wash your ears? ;)


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10 Aug 2007, 4:56 pm

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And forcing himself to try and be attracted to men temporarily isn't being gay. I've always liked women and never liked men, even when I tried. That's different to trying to be attracted to people on a lower level.


I still don't understand why -- if it's due to some past bad experience with a man or what -- but we've already conclusively not answered that....

Exactly. You don't understand it becasue you're straight. Just like I don't understand how gay men can like men. Or how someone can like someone I find f***ing ugly.
It's not due to a past bad experience with a man either. I've never been with a man.
And what do you mean by 'we've already conclusively not answered that....'? Not answered what?


Why you hate men.


how does not sexually attracted to men = hating men?


why didn't you go all the way with a man to experience what you'd expect gays to do in order to have a straight marriage?

cause you hate men?


Honestly? Only because to do so would be wrong, and I know that in my spirit. If it was okay, I'd give myself a hands-on education, but that only proves the existence of evil in every human being including me. I am naturally a man of sexual excess and depravity, but I choose to curb myself for righteousness' sake.


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10 Aug 2007, 4:57 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
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Well, likewise, I'm not against you because you're attracted to women, I'm against your blindness in thinking it's right.

I don't think it's right to be attracted to women.
It's not right or wrong. It just is.


Well then why do you act like we should all just step aside for you? If nothing's right or wrong, then majority rules, which means you lose. You don't really want to play by those rules, do you?


that;s illogical.... and besides the point

sexual orientation is not wrong or right... but that is no basis for denying a person for being either... if anything, it's a reason not to...

if it's neither wrong nor right... then it's just cruel to deny someone something

it shouldnt be about majority

that's the point


Preventing something that's neither right nor wrong is, therefore, in itself neither right nor wrong. Do you even have a moral code? I do, and mine has been in print for two thousand years. How long has yours been in print, or has it even made it to that stage yet?


yeah and my moral coade says the thing in bold is wrong whereas yours says it's right (in this case)

how does how long it's been instilled have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING

yo find glory in having precedence... even if it's wrong

edit: i thought you wrote "either"

and yes it is wrong or right to supress that........ cause it's the oreintation that's neutral... not the aspect of attraction... which is something you're wholly denying to gays


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10 Aug 2007, 5:00 pm

Sedaka wrote:
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even kids with 180 IQ do not have the ability to rationalize these things anymore than the mentally ret*d.

Bwahahahaha!! ! :lol:

Having a high IQ doesn't necessarily mean you are mature enough to get married. I have a high IQ, but I'm still very naive in a lot of ways, and apparently have a low awareness of danger.


Well, she deliberately left out my point (which she obviously couldn't deal with) that I added "also emotionally an adult", which would have blown her response out of the water. Still "running circles around" me, Sedaka?


i dont diliberately dodge anything and i apologize when i do....... unlike you

SO SORRY IF I MISSED IT....

Well, maybe you'll factor that in next time you're bragging about your brain, etc., etc.

Your brain skips like a broken record. :lol:


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10 Aug 2007, 5:01 pm

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Gays have less children than Hetrosexuals
More gay people reduces birth rate.
Promoting homosexuality increases the amount of people choosing to be gay (as bisexuals undergo more homosexual relationships etc)
Reduced birth rate has to be made up for, or we end up with economic problems
Immigration makes up reduced birth rate
Too much immigration leads to social instability.
Now what dont you follow?


and how have you missed my point that gays can't put a dent in population distributions........................

think how exponential growth works... seriously, take a math class

ive said that before...


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10 Aug 2007, 5:02 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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And forcing himself to try and be attracted to men temporarily isn't being gay. I've always liked women and never liked men, even when I tried. That's different to trying to be attracted to people on a lower level.


I still don't understand why -- if it's due to some past bad experience with a man or what -- but we've already conclusively not answered that....

Exactly. You don't understand it becasue you're straight. Just like I don't understand how gay men can like men. Or how someone can like someone I find f***ing ugly.
It's not due to a past bad experience with a man either. I've never been with a man.
And what do you mean by 'we've already conclusively not answered that....'? Not answered what?


Why you hate men.


how does not sexually attracted to men = hating men?


why didn't you go all the way with a man to experience what you'd expect gays to do in order to have a straight marriage?

cause you hate men?


Honestly? Only because to do so would be wrong, and I know that in my spirit. If it was okay, I'd give myself a hands-on education, but that only proves the existence of evil in every human being including me. I am naturally a man of sexual excess and depravity, but I choose to curb myself for righteousness' sake.

So answer this question:
How did you come up to the conclusion that Sopho hates men?


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10 Aug 2007, 5:03 pm

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I called you a moron, once, in private, but I never damned you to Hell. And I think you've well paid me back for that by calling me a dolt just now. Still settin' the ol' example for young Kilroy, eh teacher? :lol:


you've proven we're not above name calling and so i doso as well....... and if you wanna go tit for tat... you would win by far for all the names you have called me in this thread alone...

Oh, that is such bull!! You told me to go to hell yesterday.


no... i said "See you there"... cause by your standards... that's where ill be... but due to your pride... is where you'll go cause you only think you're following christ

but what i actually think is that you're gonna go to your heaven... as i've stated before... cause i dont think there's a god who judges... we judge ourselves... and you really think you're doing the right thing so that's why i think you'll go to heaven


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