I'm starting to doubt my lack of belief

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^^^ And that's why I think dimmy dum flum hum jimmer jam hoo haw.

And on flagellent amphoras did He mow kiosk, left of upswing creak.

Another verse on God's character:

Psalm 34:18

"The Lord is near to the brokenhearted
and saves the crushed in spirit."


Seems he's not as concerned with man's "good deeds" as he is about restoring broken souls.

If you choose to believe that HE cares for you that much, then that's all a person can really offer Him.

Last edited by Maranatha on 02 Jun 2010, 7:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Evidence please.

The evidence is found in the saving presence of Christ:

(Romans10:9) because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart othat God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Man gets to choose if he desires that relationship or not.

John 14:23

Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

Being outside the argument rather than caught up in the partisan aspects DOES lend one a perspective on the way people are conducting themselves and how those behaviors parallel each other.

As to the recession--being moderate does not mean I would make a claim of expertise on that matter.

Even if it does, that does not mean that the benefits of the perspective are more valuable than any other element of the situation.

You are not outside the argument, though, you merely occupy a different space within it. You say that you have been flamed by both sides—I also have been flamed by both sides, and I would not pretend to be "outside" the argument or to have some sort of super-human perspective.

I STRIDENTLY call you a stupid theist and thereby flame you for your wrong God beliefs. You should transcend your infantile fantasies and join me in STRIDENT atheism.

The moderates always think they occupy a special position. But it's like most moderates have no depth perception... the two sides are both moving... and one's on each side of you... well if you can't tell how far away they are from you... they do appear to be going parallel. What you view as parallels between their arguments aren't really. The only opinion that can hold a special position towards perception is one that doesn't rely on any assumptions.

If you argue the existence of god... the only position higher than all others is the one in which god doesn't play any role... Literally doesn't matter.
I try to move more each day toward being in that position, and i'll never quite get there, but I will get closer.

the eye and ear of products of biological evolution which was certainly not planned. If you are going to praise god for the eye and the ear what do you have to say about the lumbar region of the human spine? From a design p.o.v. that is a p.o.s.

ruveyn

If the eye is being praised, then I think there are pretty low standards here. As it stands, the eye is built in a backwards manner, which is the reason why we have a blind spot in our eye.

The the god-thing exists than it is rather incompetent given its presumed power. A very powerful which is towering in its incompetent achievements. For design, god gets a C- or a D+. Humans can do better. Unfortunately our powers and resources are limited.

ruveyn.

I agree, very poor grades on the design. Maybe man was just a middle school science project?

Ah, you guys are like the teachers today... give even the worst student a passing grade just to push him on, so you don't have to deal with him again next year.

Of course, his goal might have been to find the most idiotic way to build something... he's not to bad at that.
Hrm.. no.. human's would still be better though, after all they did invent christian philosophy.

Man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.