How can someone with Aspergers be left-wing?

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09 Nov 2010, 10:49 pm

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your desire to kill the messenger (me, or those like me) does not diminish the truth of the message one iota. What is true is true, whether we like it or not.


nowhere have i said i wanted to kill anybody or censor anybody's message. if somebody offers me something offensive, i have the right to swoon and to decline the offer. you see your own wish to get rid of your inferiors in me, but i will not be the mirror of your soul.

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You confuse your fondest wishes with feasibility. That is a bad mistake.


a critical mass of humanity can make it so. enough people have only to see the need for change. the really bad mistake is in sticking to "good enough" as though it was a security blanket. losing hope is succumbing to the dark side.

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You will notice, that despite what Jesus said on the mount, the Meek have NOT inherited the earth. Sorry about that.


when humans destroy the earth, the meek [cockroaches, who can survive anything short of a heavy jackboot] will be the meek inheritors of the wreckage.



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09 Nov 2010, 10:50 pm

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Cute, if someone deliberately mowed down children like that in the US Military they would be court-martialled (maybe even executed). The fact you neglect to mention is that the Taliban like to use little kids as human shields, when the enemy does something like that you do what you can to not hit the children but the person at fault is the ones using children as shields.


That was in reply to a nutty comment he made in the 2011 predictions thread. Check it up.



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09 Nov 2010, 10:51 pm

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If you want a boring welfare state, Sweden is the place to live.


give me some boring, please.



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09 Nov 2010, 10:55 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Socialism doesn't work especially not on a large scale.


There are several countries standing as living proof that this is a fallacy.

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Also I prefer having my freedoms to being guarenteed to have stuff.


What freedoms do you believe Americans have that socialist states do not?

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For instance, your freedom of speech is a joke, you give special rights to some individuals if they believe a certain way.


And you lock up your citizens for reading from the constitution. Yay for freedom of speech.

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Heck the reason why conservatives are against hate speech laws is how it is abused in Europe (including in Sweden).


Because it's better to allow people to incite hatred towards others?

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Furthermore, your country may end up eventually like Greece which was also Socialist.


Socialism was not the cause of the Greek economic collapse.


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I think if you investigate things a bit further, you may find that Sweden has a surprisingly well-functioning economy. This was the case even before the center-right government came to power in 2006 (a government that would be seen as far left in a country such as the US). In fact, the economy worked far better with the far more socialist Socialdemokraterna, before September 2006, far before having to regard the economical crisis, that has hit Sweden rather mildly, by the way.



Indeed.

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Sweden's greatest export was ABBA. After that the Volvo. So much for socialism.


Americans drink $400m of Swedish beer every year. How's that socialism taste? You also import nearly 25% of your medical supplies from Sweden.

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How many Nobel prizes for physics have gone to Swedes? And how much Swedish art hangs in the major museums of the world.


Nobel prizes go to individuals, not states. There is also a slight difference between the populations of Sweden and the US.

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Five hundred years of democracy and brotherhood and what have they produced? The Volvo and the SAAB. I will be impressed with Sweden when the Swedes land a Socialist on Mars.


They've produced a functioning, self-contained society which protects the vulnerable, is barely effected by a global financial collapse and some incredibly happy, well-balanced citizens.

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If you want a boring welfare state, Sweden is the place to live.

ruveyn


Going to assume you've never been to Sweden based on this jingoistic idiocy.



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09 Nov 2010, 11:04 pm

Are you guys sure you know what socialism means?



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10 Nov 2010, 12:01 am

auntblabby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
If you want a boring welfare state, Sweden is the place to live.

give me some boring, please.

I wouldn't buy into the Ayn Rand romanticization of the so-called "producing class" of wealthy entrepreneurs. Maybe if we cleaned out all the greedy philistine leeches - bankers, loan sharks. hedge fund managers, ponzi-scheme architects, and other schmoozy paper/number-game schemers and ripoff-artists. What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy. Republicans and Tea Partisans are actually an anti-intellectual force pushing our country towards a banana republic. Talk about boring. We'll also be grovelling at the feet of China.



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10 Nov 2010, 12:36 am

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What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.


That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

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Republicans and Tea Partisans are actually an anti-intellectual force pushing our country towards a banana republic.


Cute, but last I checked it was Democrats engaging in voter registration and flat out voter fraud not Republicans. The statements you are making are straight out of the Democrats talking points.



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10 Nov 2010, 12:44 am

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last I checked it was Democrats engaging in voter registration and flat out voter fraud not Republicans. The statements you are making are straight out of the Democrats talking points.


The truth is rather that both sides engage in significant voter fraud, in every election, at least the past ten years back. The US political system is incredibly corrupt in all directions. Something drastic is bound to happen if this continues, which it no doubt will.



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10 Nov 2010, 12:48 am

Beauty_pact wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
last I checked it was Democrats engaging in voter registration and flat out voter fraud not Republicans. The statements you are making are straight out of the Democrats talking points.


The truth is rather that both sides engage in significant voter fraud, in every election, at least the past ten years back. The US political system is incredibly corrupt in all directions. Something drastic is bound to happen if this continues, which it no doubt will.


I haven't heard of that many cases in which Republicans are involved in vote tampering...



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10 Nov 2010, 1:16 am

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marshall wrote:
What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.

That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

What is anti-business to you?



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10 Nov 2010, 1:19 am

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What is anti-business to you?


itis obvious that people who trot that phrase out really mean to say they should be allowed to engage in all manner of unsavory business practices without any bully pulpit telling them otherwise.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:20 am

LibertarianAS wrote:
some Asperger traits:

-logical thinking


Which makes me wonder how someone with AS can be a libertarian. Yet there you are.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:22 am

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.

That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

What is anti-business to you?


Threatening anyone whom publicly disagrees with Obama's agenda because they think it will hurt the country. That includes threatening to have companies auditted and investigated by the DoJ.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:29 am

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.

That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

What is anti-business to you?


Threatening anyone whom publicly disagrees with Obama's agenda because they think it will hurt the country. That includes threatening to have companies auditted and investigated by the DoJ.

Thank you for confirming what auntblabby just said. Dishonest companies should be investigated. What the heck is your interest in defending the rights of multi-national corporations?



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10 Nov 2010, 1:35 am

marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.

That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

What is anti-business to you?


Threatening anyone whom publicly disagrees with Obama's agenda because they think it will hurt the country. That includes threatening to have companies auditted and investigated by the DoJ.

Thank you for confirming what auntblabby just said.


:roll:

A lot of Obama's 'solutions' involves rewarding his political contributors not actually solving the problem.

Having people dress up as doctors to give his Obamacare some sort of legitimacy is propaganda. Fact is a lot of doctors plan on quitting the medical profession rather than going bankrupt because Obamacare is such a bad law. Does that break it down for you.



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10 Nov 2010, 1:43 am

Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
marshall wrote:
What we need more of in this country is science and industry. That's the only way to prevent this country from turning into a nepotistic legacy-wealth plutocracy.

That's nice considering how anti-business this President is that's probably exactly what will happen.

What is anti-business to you?


Threatening anyone whom publicly disagrees with Obama's agenda because they think it will hurt the country. That includes threatening to have companies auditted and investigated by the DoJ.

Thank you for confirming what auntblabby just said.


:roll:

A lot of Obama's 'solutions' involves rewarding his political contributors not actually solving the problem.

Having people dress up as doctors to give his Obamacare some sort of legitimacy is propaganda. Fact is a lot of doctors plan on quitting the medical profession rather than going bankrupt because Obamacare is such a bad law. Does that break it down for you.


A lot of doctors in this country think they can always count on being payed way too freaking much.