What is it with Liberal Progressives Anyways

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No, then they must be doing something to gain the trust of their audience whether or not its right and what exactly it is they do remains to be studied/discussed.

Inuyasha and I guess 49% of Americans see the poll as a n indicative that Fox News is a valid news source, whereas, the rest of the world would forever use that poll's result to show how Americans are definitely crazy and ignorant.

Of course, the reality is sadder than that, what really happened is that people with sanity are split and can choose between 5 or 6 non fox news networks when deciding what to trust, whereas, the insane republicans must stick to Fox News... So, this shows an issue, that Fox News has no competition among right-owned media. It may be because conservatives love monopolies so much (which contrasts so well with their fantasies of small government). Not to mention that non-Fox News loonies are less likely to just blindly trust a news source.

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ikorack what would it take for someone to gain trust over time. Generally you gain the trust of people by being honest, taking criticism, etc.

Meh. Conjecture with no actual basis in fact only in assumptions about the mindsets of news audiences.

1. Sanity exists
2. Your political party is the 'sane' one
3. People use political affiliations to decide what networks to trust.
4. That people(including your own party) base what to trust on what they already think they know.(willful ignorance)

These are assumptions you would have to make to believe that statement.(feel free to correct me, I likely missed at least one.)

Although I can see how one might believe those last two, I don't see why you would feel you have enough evidence to make a solid statement.

XD, your an idealist?

EDIT: I find it funny because I was certain you where going for skepticism.

I do believe Vexcalibur just got his hat handed to him.

That comment was not needed.

Also see 4

I admit it wasn't needed but it sure felt good after the gang up style of attacks for days on end.



www.salon.com is known to have a left-wing slant, I'm not sure how credible they are cause I haven't payed as much attention to them. If hotair.com however comes up with the same conclusion, it would be a liberal and conservative source agreeing on something. That was what I was saying.

Understandable.


It doesn't really need corroboration from another blog. A governors election likely got enough local media coverage just check the political columns for his election years.

@ Dox:
sometimes, punching a punching bag is fun. It's almost like that's what it's there for.

Maybe so, it just seemed like some people were taking the exercise a bit too seriously, hence my query.

Cute, however it looks like you have lost the argument. Care to explain why Fox News is the only outlet in with a net positive when it comes to trust in the United States. So with that in mind it looks like I have in fact been using a credible source. CNN came in second place but has a -2 net when it came to trust.

The cute thing is that you actually seem to believe you are "winning" any of these debates. Even ask Dox: he is always ready to call out the liberals on this board and defend conservatives, and he has pointed out to you repeatedly that you're just embarrassing yourself and your movement with your weak arguments.

I'll let you in on something. Nobody here care what news source the "American People" trust most. If you were to have a poll in 1933 Germany the numbers would show that the majority of Germans trusted Adolf Hitler. That the masses will believe nonsense is nothing new.

So because leftwing media critics claim that Fox News is a notorious yet effective propoganda outlet that takes advantage of people's trust to further lies and polls prove that Faux is the "most trusted name in news" of 49% of the American people, somehow the leftwing media critics are wrong?

What strange, non-classical system of logic do you use, Inuyasha?

I only spoke up to Inuyasha at all because I couldn't tell if he was genuinely trying to engage in debate and was just hopelessly outgunned in here, but based on his responses I have to conclude that he's beyond my help. I even brought up epistemic closure, one of the more damaging attacks on conservatives in general in trying to crack his cocoon, to no avail. I suppose I should be grateful that at least I don't have another blood feud on my hands, trying to show people how much they're shooting up their own feet can get pretty messy in here.

I'd like to take the opportunity to reiterate that if I seem to go after liberal arguments on here more than conservative ones, it's not so much that I'm more sympathetic to the conservative cause as it is that the liberal side is much better represented here and seldom needs defending. I'll readily cop to liking to back the underdog, if nothing else it can be a good intellectual challenge and helps keep this place from echoing too much. That, and being from Seattle I've seen a lot more liberal BS up close and personal than the conservative variety, so I'm more sensitized to it. Being from Ohio and all Orwell, I'm sure you can sympathize in the opposite direction.