20 Apr 2011, 4:34 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Mormons have a bit of a White Supremacist tinge to them, although they've been mollifying it somewhat over the years.
Seriously, stop spamming the race card, it makes it some the term "racist" doesn't mean anything anymore.
You're the one who played the race card first.
20 Apr 2011, 4:39 pm
20 Apr 2011, 4:40 pm
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Mormons have a bit of a White Supremacist tinge to them, although they've been mollifying it somewhat over the years.
Seriously, stop spamming the race card, it makes it some the term "racist" doesn't mean anything anymore.
You're the one who played the race card first.No it was actually Kraichgauer that played the race card:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
I responded:
Inuyasha wrote:
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Then you jumped in playing the race card:
pandabear wrote:
Mormons have a bit of a White Supremacist tinge to them, although they've been mollifying it somewhat over the years.
To which I replied:
Inuyasha wrote:
Seriously, stop spamming the race card, it makes it some the term "racist" doesn't mean anything anymore.
Vexcalibur wrote:
If you need such loosy logic to prove GB is not a white supremacist, then I'd go and guess it was very hard for you to disprove that claim.
How about we see you try to disprove the accusation that you are a racist? There is a reason why the burden of proof is on the accuser not the defendent in a trial.
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Kraichgauer
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20 Apr 2011, 9:28 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
This holy roller cracker, David Barton I believe his name is, has spoken at an event held by people involved with the white Christian identity movement, known for their Antisemitism and racism. Barton later claimed he didn't know about his hosts racial views - when it was made public. That is a matter of record.
As for Barton's association with Glenn Beck - Beck has in fact called him the most important individual in the world.
And I have to ask, just where did you get the notion that white supremacists hate Mormons? Maybe, at one time you could have made that point, but in more recent years racist groups are now even recruiting among Catholics like the Metzgers (father and son hate team), so they're open to anyone white. As a matter of fact, I recall reading years ago how one former recruiter for racist groups said Mormons and Baptists were particularly easy to reach because they were raised to be so conservative.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
20 Apr 2011, 9:42 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Glen Beck is not a Mormon.
Mormons are anarchist utopian socialists.
Karl Marx's sponsor when he moved to Britian was a Mormon.
there were Mormons at the 4th international.
Plotino Contantino Rhodakanaty was a Mormon
A link to a mormon anarchist Newspaper.
the tolstoyians sang mormon hymns.
they run their own sectarian welfare state.
there is no way that Glenn Beck is a Mormon
that is a libel either to Glenn or the mormons I am not sure which.
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20 Apr 2011, 9:46 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Glen Beck is not a Mormon.
Mormons are anarchist utopian socialists.
Karl Marx's sponsor when he moved to Britian was a Mormon.
there were Mormons at the 4th international.
Plotino Contantino Rhodakanaty was a Mormon
A link to a mormon anarchist Newspaper.
the tolstoyians sang mormon hymns.
they run their own sectarian welfare state.
there is no way that Glenn Beck is a Mormon
that is a libel either to Glenn or the mormons I am not sure which.
I'm only going by what Beck himself has claimed. I would imagine he would disavow all the points you had brought up.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
20 Apr 2011, 9:54 pm
20 Apr 2011, 10:28 pm
21 Apr 2011, 12:12 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Glen Beck is not a Mormon.
Mormons are anarchist utopian socialists.
Karl Marx's sponsor when he moved to Britian was a Mormon.
there were Mormons at the 4th international.
Plotino Contantino Rhodakanaty was a Mormon
A link to a mormon anarchist Newspaper.
the tolstoyians sang mormon hymns.
they run their own sectarian welfare state.
there is no way that Glenn Beck is a Mormon
that is a libel either to Glenn or the mormons I am not sure which.
I'm only going by what Beck himself has claimed. I would imagine he would disavow all the points you had brought up.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
No, I think he would make you look like an idiot, and completely deflate your arguments. These days being called racist doesn't mean a damn thing. Democrats and liberals have spammed the race card to the point nobody cares if someone is called a racist, because odds are it is just another smear, sad part is when someone is actually practicing racism nobody will believe the accuser anymore.
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21 Apr 2011, 1:33 am
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Glen Beck is not a Mormon.
Mormons are anarchist utopian socialists.
Karl Marx's sponsor when he moved to Britian was a Mormon.
there were Mormons at the 4th international.
Plotino Contantino Rhodakanaty was a Mormon
A link to a mormon anarchist Newspaper.
the tolstoyians sang mormon hymns.
they run their own sectarian welfare state.
there is no way that Glenn Beck is a Mormon
that is a libel either to Glenn or the mormons I am not sure which.
I'm only going by what Beck himself has claimed. I would imagine he would disavow all the points you had brought up.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
No, I think he would make you look like an idiot, and completely deflate your arguments. These days being called racist doesn't mean a damn thing. Democrats and liberals have spammed the race card to the point nobody cares if someone is called a racist, because odds are it is just another smear, sad part is when someone is actually practicing racism nobody will believe the accuser anymore.
I was actually referring to Beck's Mormonism.
And as a matter of fact, I don't necessarily think he's a racist; rather, he plays up to people's lowest natures, which includes racism, for the sake of higher ratings.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
21 Apr 2011, 9:18 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
You are.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to speak, I'm saying people should be aware of the hate behind his message.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Hate? Based on the article that Panda posted, it sounds like the driving force behind his message is love... of money.
A more interesting question to me is whether someone who says controversial things because they believe them should be judged more or less harshly than someone who says the same things because it pays by people who disagree. Take Trump and Birtherism; IMHO it's a stupid issue and I don't tend to think highly of people who espouse it, but the Donald is brilliantly exploiting it to get paid. Is that better or worse than actually being a Birther? Honestly I don't know where to come down on it, ideologue vs mercenary.
Actually, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. I was referring to a particular holy roller (name escapes me - sorry) who's posing as a constitutional scholar, with ties to white supremacists, and the so called White Christian Identity Movement who Glenn Beck, and several high ranking Republicans are paling around with. I only brought him up when Inuyasha brought up Obama's alleged dangerous associations.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I should believe a word you are saying why? White Supremist groups have a reputation for hating Mormons, and Glenn Beck is a mormon. What you are saying does not compute.
Glen Beck is not a Mormon.
Mormons are anarchist utopian socialists.
Karl Marx's sponsor when he moved to Britian was a Mormon.
there were Mormons at the 4th international.
Plotino Contantino Rhodakanaty was a Mormon
A link to a mormon anarchist Newspaper.
the tolstoyians sang mormon hymns.
they run their own sectarian welfare state.
there is no way that Glenn Beck is a Mormon
that is a libel either to Glenn or the mormons I am not sure which.
I'm only going by what Beck himself has claimed. I would imagine he would disavow all the points you had brought up.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
No, I think he would make you look like an idiot, and completely deflate your arguments. These days being called racist doesn't mean a damn thing. Democrats and liberals have spammed the race card to the point nobody cares if someone is called a racist, because odds are it is just another smear, sad part is when someone is actually practicing racism nobody will believe the accuser anymore.
I was actually referring to Beck's Mormonism.
And as a matter of fact, I don't necessarily think he's a racist; rather, he plays up to people's lowest natures, which includes racism, for the sake of higher ratings.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
"proof" <---(meaning strong evidence)
that ina does not actually read what some wrote before accusing them of playing the race card.
Mormons are socialists, they covenent to socialize all their belongings and labor to the collective.
(this is what happens in their secret temples)
Mormons are anarchists, meaning they do this outside of the scope of the state.
The mormon anti-communism of the 60's was a form of partisan in fighting.
(xtian anarchists vs atheist stalanists)
either Beck does not understand this or he is a false flag operation.
a secret leftist sent by Salt Lake to undermine Fox News.
and not a racist.
if you don't think that mormons are secret leftists read this paper.
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