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20 Jun 2011, 11:08 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

You do that. :lmao:

Whatever, imature. *ignores those that laugh and scorn*

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20 Jun 2011, 11:10 pm

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You can, but there is no way in hell to force all people who have the physical ability to have children to re-produce. We do not live in a facist nation after all.

Yes we cannot force anyone, but if they can't get married, there is more of a chance they will reproduce because ultimately people want sex. (and for the no-brainer statement of the night)

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20 Jun 2011, 11:10 pm

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Is it so bad that maybe kids at school will learn its not right to bully someone who's homosexual? I mean I highly doubt they are going to push a whole lot of gay things into school cirriculum maybe a bit of tolerance but its impossible to say. Also, maybe you have not read a lot about history but have you seen all the conflict religion causes? Also there are quite a few nasty things within christian history even. I do not support the idea of theocracy, which is what religion being the social structure of government would be, not only do I not support it but most people in the U.S and many other countries do not support it either.

COME ON! I already wrote about that. Ugh. I know people shouldn't bully, that is mean. But they'll make it seem cool.

Religion does cause conflict, but it also brings some of the greatest joy, if you only knew.

I don't think any 1 religion should be the main structure, but being religious should be.

They will make it seem cool as opposed to what? evil, in the same catagory as pedophilia, wrong, bad ect. I don't agree with attempts to make it seem cool......it is just a state of being of some people but I would rather people think its cool then evil. And no being religious should not be a government structure.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:11 pm

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An ill formed one. "If you like what you've got, you'll listen to me! Because... THOSE GAYS!"

Confused again??? I am not saying it that way, I have logical arguments.

Funny, that's what ya'll sound like except it is replaced with THOSE CHRISTIANS!

Your argument consists of "Make babies my way and we can take back control of the government!"

... illogical. You have yet to provide a solid reason why a same sex couple cannot achieve the same thing. Nor have you provided sound reasoning for how same sex marriage would erode and corrupt the government.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:11 pm

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I would say it is not getting them in deeper, it is simply allowing something that many people want.....which would really do no harm to anyone. And its not as simple as saying no gay, there are gay people and they are not going to go away nor should they....they are just as valid as all other people.

It is though, because they are controlling it, because they are allowing it!! !

There are gay people, but if we weaken the gay community influence, by not lending them aid in the evil battle, then it breaks morale (morale to be gay, however ironic that may be).

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20 Jun 2011, 11:11 pm

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You can, but there is no way in hell to force all people who have the physical ability to have children to re-produce. We do not live in a facist nation after all.

Yes we cannot force anyone, but if they can't get married, there is more of a chance they will reproduce because ultimately people want sex. (and for the no-brainer statement of the night)

Condoms and birth control work great.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:12 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

You do that. :lmao:

Whatever, imature. *ignores those that laugh and scorn*

Funny. No scorn from me. Can't say the same for you, though.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:15 pm

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I couldn't help but notice you made reference to becoming more godlike, the Book of Mormon, the pearl of great price, (not 'the") heavenly father. It seems to me, you're bringing in your Mormon theology of attaining godhood, partway through heterosexual marriage. Call me an Anti-Mormon bigot if you want, but I have to tell you, your religion has little credibility among Non-Mormons. You're certainly not going to win over anyone to your side by arguing that homosexual marriage will get someone denied godhood.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So people know Mormon's follow a lot of standards, sue me if that was my argument that I follow everything I say to the best of my ability. Why does it have little credit? Most people think mormon's are smart and follow a lot of standards...that's all I was trying to show.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:17 pm

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Boy do you live in a bubble! Most think Mormons are repressed and stiff... not smart. In fact, most people I've met consider the LDS church a sanctioned cult.

<--- former Mormon

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20 Jun 2011, 11:18 pm

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No, I don't see it. You know what I see when I come across a same sex couple?

... nothing special.

No, the government has no business controlling who can and can't get into my pants. *I* am the only one that should control such things. Period, end of.

Know what I see? Evilness? And misunderstanding of what will bring happiness.

The government can't control that. Nope, but they should be able to control if you get tax-benefits from it and the like. Oh, and if you wanted to have sex with someone before, why does marriage make a difference? Seems like you are trying to make something bad good. You don't need the certificate to do that. Ya'll just want the benefits.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:18 pm

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Nationalism is a very dangerous thing, and look around we are becoming a lot like those chinese factory workers.....did you know 1% of the population controls most of the wealth, leaving a growing rate of un-employement and increasing the size of the poverty population. Also do you know why those chinese factory workers have to live the way they do? Corporate exploitation and the fact of the matter is a lot of these corporations come from the U.S. But corporate america is not going to stop there they wont stop when the citizens of the U.S are the only ones left to exploit.

Nationalism can be dangerous, but it can also be good. Exactly, so we need more people to overpower the wealthy.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:19 pm

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Yea. It is not just a state of being, it is a wrong state of being!! !

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20 Jun 2011, 11:19 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Plenty of people agree Mormons follow a very strict morality, but give little or no credibility to the theology behind it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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20 Jun 2011, 11:20 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Same-sex people cannot have babies!

Because it would bring more evil.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:20 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

What's so wrong with wanting the ability to be at your partner's bedside as they die? Or... being able to keep your children after the legal adoptee dies?

I can tell you from personal experience that the LDS churches stance on same sex marriage is cold and devoid of any kind of compassion. I think the same of anyone arguing on their behalf.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:20 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

Condoms and birth control work great.

I understand those are around. Those are a major hindrance. But ultimately if we can win this battle, we can win that one.

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