Are we seeing the end of Fox News?

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I really don't watch news all that much but seeing how much Fox upsets the liberals I must be missing out on some good journalism.

It is a fact that CNN is treading the political center, whereas MSNBC is going after the market left-of-center. This is no secret as they fight for ratings and viewership - CNN holds that the political center will lend it some credibility of non-partisanship, even if it means the least viewership between the three of them. MSNBC comes in at second by smartly moving to the left as opposition to the Bush era grew in popularity, and there will always need to be a passionate left-wing entertaining news alternative to Fox.

Outside of Fox News, the entire televised media industry sympathized with Barack Obama, particularly CNN, creating conservative boogiemen for their pundits to dismiss as typical hysteria coming from the right, all the while defending mis-reportings or agendas at other networks as non-partisan as well.

Elections and election season aside, the day to day workings are not driven by ideological motivations... it was market driven and a response to consumer taste, again, for money and viewership.

CNN isn't the closest to political center, it is much closer than MSNBC, but CNN is hardly this nonpartisan source you guys claim it is.

If CNN is predisposed at all to the left, there is absolutely no way you can say Fox is anywhere close to being "fair and balanced." For instance, when have they ever ran a story showing President Obama in a good light? That is, other than in killing Osama Bin Laden.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

What has Obama done that was actually good for the country?

Obamacare is wrecking the economy.

Obama's domestic policies are anti-business in the extreme.

Obama botched the handling of the Gulf oil spill and his agencies interfered with the state governments trying to clean up the mess.

Obama's DoJ let the New Black Panthers get away with voter intimidation.

Obama's energy policies are set to wreck the country and cause energy prices to skyrocket.


I'd actually like you to name one thing that Obama has done that is positive, odds are I would probably say it is not a positive and point out the negative repercussions caused by it. The only really good thing he has done is kill Bin Laden, and if he had his way we wouldn't have even been able to have that happen.

^ As one.sided and strongly opinionated as a true balanced news source would teach you to be.

Aside from killing Bin Ladin what is one good thing Obama has done? Name one.

He green-lighted the SEALS killing some Somali Pirates

ruveyn

Please, don't tell me you actually believe that conservative horses**t that Obama actually wants the terrorists to win.
As for Obamacare, millions of Americans - including children and young adults - have and will have medical coverage. I can't possibly see how that can be a bad thing. The only problem I have with Obamacare is, in his futile zeal to build bridges with Republicans, he hadn't gone far enough to extend healthcare to all Americans.
He also will save the social safety net soon, despite the machinations of Republicans.
He is drawing down the number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Though I wish it could be done quicker.
He has inspired the Arab Spring, which is bringing about hope for democracy in the Arab world, for and by Arabs.
As reveyn said, he killed those Somali pirates, and freed the hostage.
I suppose I could go on, but I'm missing the Daily Show.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Thank ruveyn I had forgotten about that one, and if I recall Fox News praised him for giving the green light to shoot them, as did Limbaugh.

I do counter-examples pro bono publica. I am channeling my hero Socrates and the Little Boy from the Hans Christian Andersen tale --- The Emperor and His New Clothes ---.

ruveyn

I drank what???! !! !! --- Socrates.

What? Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and consequently Inuyahsa are praising President Obama?

Are you going to be having sex with him, next?

The rare instances Obama has actually done something right, Fox News and Mr. Limbaugh will acknowledge that. However, I would think Obama's bed would be too crowded from all the reporters of CNN, ABC, NBC, Chris Matthews, you, etc. that appear to want to have his babies all the time.

I seem to recall that he prevented a depression with his stimulus program - something which W. was even onto. Obama is good at more than just killing as*holes.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I would argue stimulus has just prolonged this economic downturn, it hasn't helped all that much.

While I certainly agree with you that stimulus spending is in some sense artificial spending, I question your conclusions that it has prolonged the downturn, and that it hasn't helped.

I see a couple of major counter arguments:

1) Stimulus spending is largely focussed on areas within government's competency. This is particularly true of infrastructure. There are very few "hard" infrastructure programs that the private sector can be expected to provide. There simply isn't enough money from road and rail transportation to justify the capital outlay. You can get a public-private partnership to build a bridge, perhaps, with a deal for the toll revenue. You can get them to build airport expansions, with a deal for airport user fee revenues. But expropriating land and laying down asphalt across the country does not generate revenue, but it is necessary for economic activity, which is why government is responsible for it.

I argue that an economic downturn is the best time to build infrastructure: it serves to prop up aggregate demand, promoting price stability; and it defers the cost of infrastructure to those who are actually using it. Passing on the debt for building a highway to tomorrow's users of that highway does not cause me to lose sleep at night. Passing on debt to pay for pension contributions that should have been made ten years ago does.

2) In an economy in which the private sector has spare capacity, then government procurement just gets in the way of the marketplace. But when the private sector is starved for cash, often the government is the only pocket out there.

3) Left to its own devices, a failure of aggregate demand will, ipso facto create a deflationary spiral, where prices will fall to meet the new aggregate demand--but in turn producers will be squeezed by input costs (particularly wages) that are not falling in step. This will cause the market to shed even more jobs, creating a new failure of aggregate demand.

I just don't see where the private sector could have come up with the cash to take up the slack after the downturn.