Why do people disapprove of homosexuality?

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What is the primary reason for disapproval of homosexuality?

Religion	36%	[ 40 ]
Fear that homosexuals will be attracted to YOU	3%	[ 3 ]
Fear of disintegrating gender roles	10%	[ 11 ]
Male fear of gay anal rape	5%	[ 5 ]
Homosexual intercourse cannot produce children	4%	[ 4 ]
It just icks people out	18%	[ 20 ]
It defies social norms	10%	[ 11 ]
Other (please explain below)	15%	[ 16 ]

Total votes : 110

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28 Dec 2011, 9:07 pm

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I'm not religious or a bigot, but

Reminds me of the more common "I'm not a racist, but..." :roll:

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28 Dec 2011, 9:13 pm

Marriage has been defined as between a man and women, two people capable of producing offspring. That's the truth (though its not just semantics that matter). It would be essentially calling an apple an orange.

I don't think gay marriage should be legal nationwide, since there are states strongly against it. States that disapprove should not be forced to conduct it.

The biggest reason: Marriage is a matter of religion, and should stay out of government. That is up the church. Civil unions are okay. And this applies to heterosexual marriages too.

(I WANT TO CLARIFY. I AM IN NO WAY AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY. I BELIEVE GAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT IMPOSING IT ON OTHERS)

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28 Dec 2011, 9:17 pm

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(I WANT TO CLARIFY. I AM IN NO WAY AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY. I BELIEVE GAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT IMPOSING IT ON OTHERS)

Does the paradox of being against one group's access to an institution of our society because it involves "imposing" their preferences on others, based on the... imposition of "Biblical heterosexuality" on people who do not desire it not occur to you?

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28 Dec 2011, 9:21 pm

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You know there is such thing as Civil Marriage...

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28 Dec 2011, 9:29 pm

Vigilans wrote:

minervx wrote:

(I WANT TO CLARIFY. I AM IN NO WAY AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY. I BELIEVE GAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT IMPOSING IT ON OTHERS)

I'm not for imposed heterosexuality either. My view is that each state should decide what they want.

If a homosexual couple wants to marry, they can locate to a state that allows that.

But to have a large central government tell us who can and cannot marry does not sit well with me.

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28 Dec 2011, 9:50 pm

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If a homosexual couple wants to marry, they can locate to a state that allows that.

Okay, this train of thought is what bothers me the most. I live in Texas, which obviously does not permit or recognize same-sex marriage. If I wanted to marry another man, I'd have to make a decision of either moving to a state which allows and/or recognizes it, which would mean moving away from my family and friends in my home state; or getting married in a state that allows it but coming back home where our marriage is completely void. Why should I have to go through all that trouble when heterosexual couples don't?

Secondly, the religious do not have a monopoly over marriage. In fact, marriage was largely considered a secular institution up until the Middle Ages when the Church decided to get involved with it, and now all of a sudden only they get to decide who can and can't get married.

As for your states' rights argument, I'm sure there were lots of states that were just as opposed to letting blacks and whites marry each other back in the day as there are states opposed to same-sex marriage today.

I really don't understand why this remains such a controversial issue in our society. Allowing same-sex marriage is not going to destroy marriage any more than allowing women to vote destroyed voting.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:00 pm

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If a homosexual couple wants to marry, they can locate to a state that allows that.

That would be a compromise that would please no one. If Gay people ought to have the right to marry, then it follows that they should be able to marry. The rightness or wrongness of a suggestion has no geographic limitation.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:07 pm

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minervx wrote:

If a homosexual couple wants to marry, they can locate to a state that allows that.

And god forbid a married couple get into an accident while traveling in/through a state that doesn't recognize their union.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:11 pm

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And god forbid a married couple get into an accident while traveling in/through a state that doesn't recognize their union.

The right to designate next of kin and establish power of attorney through one's partner should be a settled issue by now. Even if a state decided to hold that Gay marriage is ought not to be allowed, it does not follow that they ought deny the basic necessities of a relationship. I can see very little basis for denying a widespread recognition of rights within de-facto relationships.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:13 pm

91 wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

And god forbid a married couple get into an accident while traveling in/through a state that doesn't recognize their union.

Except it's happened many times.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:16 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

91 wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

And god forbid a married couple get into an accident while traveling in/through a state that doesn't recognize their union.

Except it's happened many times.

It happened very recently in Tennessee. A hospital defied an executive order from Obama designating that people in hospitals should be able to grant visitation to anybody of their choosing by not allowing a woman to see her partner in the hospital.

There are states that are homophobic enough to do such things.

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28 Dec 2011, 10:16 pm

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Yeah! If gays want to marry, they should move back to Homoslavia! :roll:

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28 Dec 2011, 10:55 pm

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minervx wrote:

Yeah! If gays want to marry, they should move back to Homoslavia! :roll:

exactly, or new york.

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28 Dec 2011, 11:17 pm

The government should just stay the heck out of marriage all together. Marriage should simply be a contract between two individuals(and honestly, I don't see the problem with more than that but that's another discussion) and whatever higher power you believe or don't believe in. The whole reason "marriage licenses" even exist was to stop interracial marriages, they're inherently a discriminatory.

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28 Dec 2011, 11:29 pm

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If a homosexual couple wants to marry, they can locate to a state that allows that.

Why is it that heterosexuals are privileged to this right of getting married without having to move to another
state whilst homosexuals would need to relocate?

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28 Dec 2011, 11:30 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

Reminds me of the more common "I'm not a racist, but..." :roll:

Thing is though is that commonly the person this is directed at perceives everyone else on the planet to be a racist but themselves.

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