If a person is defective, they should be eliminated

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02 Mar 2012, 12:55 pm

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Now, on one hand, this may seem like I'm taking away rights from people, and I am. However, on the other hand, President Palin, President Santorum or President Haggard scares me. Just look at how easily the tea party movement was manipulated into becoming an advocacy group for Steve Forbes rather than Joe the Plumber.


Proving once again that politics is the grease that make the Slippery Slope slippery.

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Your slippery slope is still a bit of a fallacy given that at no point I advocated that the teabaggers be killed, just had their right to vote revoked until they can prove that they are worthy of such a privilege.



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02 Mar 2012, 1:14 pm

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Your slippery slope is still a bit of a fallacy given that at no point I advocated that the teabaggers be killed, just had their right to vote revoked until they can prove that they are worthy of such a privilege.


Voting is a civil right, not a privilege. All you need for that right is to be the right age, a citizen and not convicted of felony. The content of ones politics has absolutely nothing to do with the (civil) Right to Vote.

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02 Mar 2012, 1:49 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Your slippery slope is still a bit of a fallacy given that at no point I advocated that the teabaggers be killed, just had their right to vote revoked until they can prove that they are worthy of such a privilege.


Voting is a civil right, not a privilege. All you need for that right is to be the right age, a citizen and not convicted of felony. The content of ones politics has absolutely nothing to do with the (civil) Right to Vote.

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I know it is now, I just happen to think it shouldn't be. If you can force people to get a driver's license so that you know that people who drive a car are less likely to hurt other people since they have training in the operation of a vehicle, then I don't see a problem with requiring people to have a knowledge and understanding of politics before they help decide who gets to have the nuclear launch codes. The damage done by a bad decision by enough people, such as voting for George W Bush is much greater than the damage done if nobody had a driver's license. We're talking trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, 2 wars and a recession.

If your wife or business partner told you, "I don't care about economics, I don't know anything about economics and I'm not interested in economics" would you take their opinion into account on an equal level as your financial advisor?



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10 Mar 2012, 4:13 am

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I am the kind of person that would even defend a serial child killer clown's right to live, that is how serious about rights I am.


Ha! Wow. When you start going around killing people who don't deserve it, you have waived your rights. I cannot believe that you think this sort of scum has rights.

Did you consider the rights of the people to not be murdered?

Way to come off like a f*****g idiot just to prove "how serious about rights" you are. "Serious," my ass.

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This would simply be cutting the extra fat off of society. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If a single one of them is incapable of productivity, or damaged in any way, would it not be proper to eliminate them?

Consider that a large portion of human beings do not work, or are incapable of working, yet they reproduce and take up an unnecessary amount of resources. They are the surplus population. Like any instance in which there is a surplus of goods, the value of that good decreases. So it is with the human species.


Hmm your profile says you've been diagnosed with aspergers, so that would include you.


Wow, WP never ceases to amaze me... People with Asperger's are useless, surplus fat on society? f**k you. Many of us are successful and productive, because we keep trying and don't make excuses for who we are.



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10 Mar 2012, 12:04 pm

I have no answer to the question, but would like to say don't try to eliminate yourself -- NTs will lock you up, make you attend group sessions, and do handicrafts. This gets old after a few days days. Just go to some public place and see how well NTs imitate eachother. Enjoy.



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10 Mar 2012, 12:19 pm

Blasty wrote:
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I am the kind of person that would even defend a serial child killer clown's right to live, that is how serious about rights I am.


Ha! Wow. When you start going around killing people who don't deserve it, you have waived your rights. I cannot believe that you think this sort of scum has rights.

Did you consider the rights of the people to not be murdered?

Way to come off like a f***ing idiot just to prove "how serious about rights" you are. "Serious," my ass.

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This would simply be cutting the extra fat off of society. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If a single one of them is incapable of productivity, or damaged in any way, would it not be proper to eliminate them?

Consider that a large portion of human beings do not work, or are incapable of working, yet they reproduce and take up an unnecessary amount of resources. They are the surplus population. Like any instance in which there is a surplus of goods, the value of that good decreases. So it is with the human species.


Hmm your profile says you've been diagnosed with aspergers, so that would include you.


Wow, WP never ceases to amaze me... People with Asperger's are useless, surplus fat on society? f**k you. Many of us are successful and productive, because we keep trying and don't make excuses for who we are.


I am confused, I was basically telling the OP killing of the defective would include them since they have a mental condition....the idea of killing off people due to them being 'defective' is quite horrid in general and I certainly do not agree with it. But obviously someone with a mental condition would fit into the defective catagory if there really was a policy to eliminate the 'defective'.

so I am not sure why you have an issue with my post.


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10 Mar 2012, 1:42 pm

The issue arises that who is any one person to say who can and can't be useful to society, in some way or another?


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10 Mar 2012, 2:27 pm

How about we eliminate all the people that would judge the people that are defective? With no one to judge who is, no one will be defective!! !



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10 Mar 2012, 3:10 pm

If anything, this entire resurrected thread is more of an argument in favor of fetal screening, assisted suicide and strictly palliative care for the terminally ill rather than government mandated eugenics programs.

Of course, there's a huge difference with the former three: They're all voluntary decisions which are made by the individual.



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10 Mar 2012, 5:11 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Voting is a civil right, not a privilege. All you need for that right is to be the right age, a citizen and not convicted of felony. The content of ones politics has absolutely nothing to do with the (civil) Right to Vote.

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There are so many things that are considered felonies now it's not even funny. If you ask me, the only things that should be considered felonies are the following:

*Murder
*Rape
*Child pornography
*Grand theft, not petty.


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10 Mar 2012, 6:25 pm

Yupa wrote:
This would simply be cutting the extra fat off of society. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If a single one of them is incapable of productivity, or damaged in any way, would it not be proper to eliminate them?


I think they tried this once in Germany. The results were not so great.



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13 Mar 2012, 3:13 am

Yupa wrote:
This would simply be cutting the extra fat off of society. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If a single one of them is incapable of productivity, or damaged in any way, would it not be proper to eliminate them?

Consider that a large portion of human beings do not work, or are incapable of working, yet they reproduce and take up an unnecessary amount of resources. They are the surplus population. Like any instance in which there is a surplus of goods, the value of that good decreases. So it is with the human species.


I know NTs who would argue that you, having ASD, should be eliminated.



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13 Mar 2012, 3:15 am

scubasteve wrote:
Yupa wrote:
This would simply be cutting the extra fat off of society. There are 7 billion people on this planet. If a single one of them is incapable of productivity, or damaged in any way, would it not be proper to eliminate them?


I think they tried this once in Germany. The results were not so great.


I dunno my friend, I hear Hitler got a great career as a rapper afterwards.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLrlmV9A-s[/youtube]

Oh wait, Vader keeps killing him. Never mind, nothing good resulted of that.


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13 Mar 2012, 7:47 am

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There are so many things that are considered felonies now it's not even funny. If you ask me, the only things that should be considered felonies are the following:

*Murder
*Rape
*Child pornography
*Grand theft, not petty.


I might also add identity theft. IMO that's almost as bad as rape sometimes.



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13 Mar 2012, 8:14 am

Is anyone here in favor of eliminating Stephen Hawking?

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13 Mar 2012, 8:30 am

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Is anyone here in favor of eliminating Stephen Hawking?

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Hmmmm, well for such a smart guy, he says some pretty dumb things sometimes :wink: