Is genocide justified when it comes to psychopaths?

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So who do you guys suppose is going to end up in the positions of deciding who is a psychopath in need of genocide? See that is the trouble with this entire thing genocide is psychopathic in nature, so what would prevent the psychopaths from finding a way to use it for their own benefit.

Also, just another bit of technical information psychopathy is actually a vague term, that does not point to any specific mental illness...its more of a popular term used to describe people in history who have done horrible things or who make it on the news for doing horrible things. So that already makes the idea of trying to sort out who's a psychopath and who's not difficult to begin with.

I know this is a hypothetical conversation but another thing that scares me as well on it. You all realize we have people in this forum who are all about bloody revolution of the proletariat and that, by necessity, they project psychopathy on the rich because they'd never be able to take up such behavior against other 'humans'. Do you see how loose this is and how many ways it can be applied?

How is wanting to change the power structure we currently have psychopathic? Unless people are out claiming all rich people should be killed its not all that psychopathic. If anything is psychopathic its the fact that a very small group of very wealthy people own most of the worlds wealth, means of production & distribution...and they want it all for themselves and don't give a damn about their fellow humans.


but that is not a debate for this thread,....just wanted to be clear I don't advocate mass murder when I talk about there needing to be changes in society and the economic system.

The only reason I bring that up is that I heard people clearly calling for violent revolt - if you weren't then I'm not talking about you in that sense. The psychopath thing kept getting brought up and with such tedium that it became pretty clear that it was being used as a device to distance the humanity of certain types of people who were inconvenient. That's not to say that I'm calling them evil, I'm calling it a local reminder of how these things work with human nature and that even the most self-proclaimed liberal and open minded people have just as much of it as anyone else.

Sadly it might escalate into that, depending on what happens in the future....but I prefer trying to solve things as peacefully as possible...but I do see your point.

The rich of our age group though are still growing up in our day and age with all the same influences and most of the same attitudes, and we're seeing even more musician/green consulting hipsters coming from legacy money which is why I'm really doubtful of people's worst case scenario thinking.

my friend/associate sees me as a psychopath. he considers my attitudes reprehensible, and i consider his attitudes to be the product of a bleeding heart mentality. he is only my friend because i give him money. if i did not do that, he would not be my friend.

it was thought by my doctors when i was young that i may be psychopathic, but it was ruled out because i do care for animals and some humans.

my "friend" has a simplistic idea of psychopathy because he is not educated as to what constitutes psychopathy.

i think psychopathy is the opposite of schizophrenia.

psychopathy and schizophrenia are equally distant from normalcy, but in different directions.

schizophrenics (when acute) believe that they are controlled by external forces, and they are often paranoid, and psychopaths are impervious to external forces and not worried at all about any imagined "karma" they may be engendering due to their actions.

schizophrenic people feel like victims of higher forces, and psychopaths feel like they are the higher force.

my "friend" thinks i am psychopathic for many and various reasons. i will try to list them.

i am reasonably successful and i have a business that makes me money while i exert minimal effort, and i have "rescued him" by making him an employee of my business. he has to drive a truck and do deliveries, and i pay him above award rates. while i sleep he works, and i earn more than he does, but it is my investment and money that makes it all possible. he does not understand that.
i pay for the stock that he delivers, and if i had no money, he would be on the street begging for food.

he thinks that i think of him as my "n****r" and he thinks i treat him as a slave, but i pay him much more than i would have to pay average drivers. i pay him $250 per day, and i could get a driver that i would only have to pay $140 per day for. they would not question their salary.

he says that because he is my friend, that he deserves much more, but in my mind he is a parasite who wants to suck on my nipples like a hungry piglet who snorts into it's mothers belly greedily.

why does he deserve more? why should i forgo my own income for him? he is smart and good looking but he is lazy, and he never looks for a job that could pay more. he knows he would not get a job that pays more because he is not prepared to work from 9-5 for 5 days per week.

when i tell him that, he goes beserk and says "well you don't even have to get out of bed and you're earning much more than me!!"

that may be the case, but it is not my fault that i am in the position i am. i worked hard to get to be where i am, and he has always been a dreamer all his life. he thinks he is like jimi hendrix and he thinks that people should see his power of soul, but i think he is latently schizophrenic.

he was talking the other day about "agenda 21" and he was saying that the "illuminati" are fixing to reduce the population of the world to 500 million, and he said that they were using monsanto to poison the water and soil and air, and every time he sees a simple vapor trail from a jetliner, he believes it is a "chem trail" of poison.

i can not talk him out of his beliefs because they are so ingrained into his brain, so i said "well as long as i do not live to see it come to fruition i do not care"

he was thoroughly disgusted with my attitude and called me a psychopath once again.
he said "are you telling me you don't care about what happens in the world after you die?!?!".

i said "tell me this. if an asteroid obliterated all life on the world the day after you die, would you care?"

he could not believe i could be so callous to ask such a question. he hung up in my ear, and i have not heard from him since, but i am sure that the day before his next day of employment he will ring me to make sure he is required to work for me. if he does not, then i have another driver rearing to go.


i never have wanted anyone to fail and i have no pleasure in seeing pain and if it was up to me, i would anoint everyone on earth with prosperity and security.

but i do not really live outside my own world, and people hurt and fail outside of my consciousness, and i have no knowledge of it and so i can always easily go to sleep.

maybe i am a candidate for euthanasia because i am not a community minded spirit.

And you think they would like to do politics, because?

It seems like the harder a person's failing and the more aware they are they're failing at a subconscious level the more convoluted the dream world that they make up rather than cope with reality. Typically when we offend as aspies, we offend people's dream worlds, the difference with us - part of why we don't have dreamworlds to steep our minds in and even try to make public policy on or alie to ourselves all day long is that the long arm of society caught us "Person no. 1 - you can BS to yourself, we accept you....next.... person no. 2 - you can BS to yourself, we accept you.....next.....person No. 3....wait...hold it right there....denied!!" (person No. 3 is aspie). Because we quite often can't get away with lying to ourselves like everyone else without it being held against us we may often become hyper-realists in trying to seize what tools we have left to us which likely could make us look very sheer and manipulative because we've become all pragmatics and no sugar (at least outwardly to those around us), and even when we try to gloss that over with social consideration to people's vulnerabilities its still difficult to do right with people who've developed so differently from us.

Abuse isn't a factor at all. If that were true then everyone who has been even a little bit abused as you suggested would be at risk of this sort of crime. It's just not relevant to this sort of person whether they were abused or not. I have experience with people who lack conscience, a lot of experience, and they can be nice people on the surface but dealing with them is extremely damaging. My sentiment is based on my experience and trauma from dealing with it. If they have even the slightest feeling, at this point I'm not inclined to care. It would only be another thing they can use to manipulate in their favor.

Actually, the biggest problem with having a pit-bull or pit-bull mix as a pet is not how it will react to humans, but how it will react to other dogs. I agree that with a decent environment they can be as harmless to unknown people as a Golden Retriever or any other breed, but there is absolutely no way you can say they're safe company for other dogs, whatever environment they happen to have been raised in. Period.

I knew a very nice couple that bought a pit-bull b***h puppy from a thoroughly reputable breeder. I'm pretty confident they did everything they were supposed to when raising her, and as a puppy she was the sweetest dog, I can say that. Unfortunately, at about a year old it was like this light went off in her head. She was still fine around people. She was still fine around other dogs, as long as that "other dog" was male. (With or without nuts, as the man at the ice-cream shop asked. Didn't matter to her.) But she could not tolerate the presence of another b***h; in fact she'd go batshit crazy at the mere sight of one, from Dachshund to Great Dane. They actually hired a doggie shrink who charged them a lot of money and did exactly nothing to solve the problem. Last I heard they still owned her, and I guess they're okay as long as they're VERY careful.

I think environment had very little to do with this sad tale, personally.



Yes, but with some dogs it takes next to no effort and with others it would probably take some. (I won't say a whole lot of effort, but an effort would have to be made.) One breed that has been for all purposes ruined: Jack/Parson Russell Terriers. I'm not sure what has happened to the breed, but they're practically Hannibal Lecter from the womb these days. I'd say you get your killing machine with zero effort there. Whether you want it that way or not.



Not that I've spent a tremendous amount of time around dogs, especially over the last five years, but what I have seen does not square with this observation. Not one bit. You really think a St. Bernard could make as good a retriever as a Labrador with just a bit more effort? Or that an Akita could herd sheep like a Border Collie with just that little bit more training? Wow. We've certainly had a different set of experiences, if nothing else.

You know, it is kind of interesting that a word that appeared quite often in the works of Jane Austen is word that is robo-censored by WP in 2012. We've sure come a long way, haven't we?

Man, it must be nice to live in a world where everything exists in such perfect clarity of form. When you manage to find your way back to reality, do tell us how you got there.

Well everyone is always entitled to their opinion....but I have taken psychology and am going to have to base my opinion on some of what I learned. So it is quite true that abuse can contribute to violent behavior. This is not to say everyone who's been abused is going to turn into a psychopath......that would be ridiculous, but in general it can most definitely a factor in violent behavior. I even have a relative who comes off as a psychopath, but that was after a lot of abuse from his father...my dad remember this relative as a very sweet little kid so it is very sad...I mean that does not excuse his behavior but I am certain it was a factor.

But yeah you are right in that abuse does not cause psychopathy, however it can be a factor in violent/psychopathic behavior...so I would have to disagree with it not ever being a factor at all.

You don't impress.

he has a point though,

abused children are more likely to abuse their children for an example