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08 Jun 2012, 7:22 pm

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Nuclear power coal ect works better then green energy


Please translate that into English. Thank you.;

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Grüne Energie ist eine Verschwendung von zeit :wink:



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12 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

I hear folks talk about how it destroys landscapes, but whole entire mountains are ravaged to get coal, entire bodies of water have been poisoned from oil spills for petroleum excavation, there's a big molten mass of uranium and plutonium in the earths crust off the shore of Japan that nobody knows the whereabouts of. I guess if its not as visible, its tolerated more. If you can actually see it on the roadside, then that's when people get more upset, even thought its causing a lot less damage than what isn't as visible. You can make wind generators out of salvaged or scrap materials too., so you don't even have to carve out mountains to get the resources to build them. Its unavoidable with substances you have to keep burning though.



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15 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

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there's a big molten mass of uranium and plutonium in the earths crust off the shore of Japan that nobody knows the whereabouts of.


Huh, can you explain this please?

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15 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

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there's a big molten mass of uranium and plutonium in the earths crust off the shore of Japan that nobody knows the whereabouts of.


Huh, can you explain this please?

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The corium, a molten state that the core reaches when it overheats in a meltdown, in one of the reactors melted through the floor and foundation, much like chernobyl. At chernobyl, there was fears that the core would hit the water table and poison the black sea, but, luckily it cooled before getting to that point. Once it gets out of the foundation, it can just keep eating through the ground. Being that its sub-terrainian, there's really no way to monitor whats going on.



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15 Jun 2012, 1:10 pm

JNathanK wrote:
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JNathanK wrote:
there's a big molten mass of uranium and plutonium in the earths crust off the shore of Japan that nobody knows the whereabouts of.


Huh, can you explain this please?

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The corium, a molten state that the core reaches when it overheats in a meltdown, in one of the reactors melted through the floor and foundation, much like chernobyl. At chernobyl, there was fears that the core would hit the water table and poison the black sea, but, luckily it cooled before getting to that point. Once it gets out of the foundation, it can just keep eating through the ground. Being that its sub-terrainian, there's really no way to monitor whats going on.


Oh dear facepalm time again.

What you are talking about is China Syndrome. It is a film and completely fictional.

Fictional as in not real. fictional as in completely made up.

In Chernobyl the corium did melt through the REACTOR casing into the main building then it stopped and is still there.

In Fukishima, their was no melting through the bottom of any reactor casing. Yes Corium was formed, yes it wrote off the reactors, no it didn't breach, it's all still inside the reactors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corium_(nuclear_reactor)

It is completely impossible for the contents of any reactor to melts it's way into the earth's crust as a coherent ball of nastiness, as soon as it melts the bottom of the dish shaped reactor it hits concrete, spreads out and stops being at critical mass because of dilution and spreading out.



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15 Jun 2012, 4:22 pm

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By the way, UN international monitors spent a decade in Iraq and were very insistent that they had no WMD's, America lies.

Perhaps the moral of this tale is to place more trust in UN run organisations that are made up of people from many different nations...

Both a couple Iraqi air force generals and the Mossad independently made claims that Iraq smuggled a small stash, several cargo planes full, into Syria ri8ght before the invasion. The Mossad went further to say that Syria gave it to Iran, but lost the majority of their best experts and technicians in an accident messing with the stuff (loading it on missiles?).

Placing trust in the UN is a bad idea because they are hopelessly corrupt and heavily influenced by anti-democratic regimes and enemies of America.


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15 Jun 2012, 7:28 pm

John_Browning wrote:
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By the way, UN international monitors spent a decade in Iraq and were very insistent that they had no WMD's, America lies.

Perhaps the moral of this tale is to place more trust in UN run organisations that are made up of people from many different nations...

Both a couple Iraqi air force generals and the Mossad independently made claims that Iraq smuggled a small stash, several cargo planes full, into Syria ri8ght before the invasion. The Mossad went further to say that Syria gave it to Iran, but lost the majority of their best experts and technicians in an accident messing with the stuff (loading it on missiles?).

Placing trust in the UN is a bad idea because they are hopelessly corrupt and heavily influenced by anti-democratic regimes and enemies of America.

I did not write this, DC did. Please edit your post.



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15 Jun 2012, 7:46 pm

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I did not write this, DC did. Please edit your post.

Sure, sorry.


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16 Jun 2012, 6:55 am

John_Browning wrote:
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By the way, UN international monitors spent a decade in Iraq and were very insistent that they had no WMD's, America lies.

Perhaps the moral of this tale is to place more trust in UN run organisations that are made up of people from many different nations...

Both a couple Iraqi air force generals and the Mossad independently made claims that Iraq smuggled a small stash, several cargo planes full, into Syria ri8ght before the invasion. The Mossad went further to say that Syria gave it to Iran, but lost the majority of their best experts and technicians in an accident messing with the stuff (loading it on missiles?).

Placing trust in the UN is a bad idea because they are hopelessly corrupt and heavily influenced by anti-democratic regimes and enemies of America.


A single, ex Iraqi air force general made the claim during a tv interview while promoting his book. He had fled Iraq a decade before and certainly was in position to offer any first hand testimony.

He provided no evidence for his claim.

A single ex Israeli intelligence officer also speculated during an interview that Iraq might have transferred material to Syria.

He provided no evidence for his claim.

People who have books to sell make all sorts of outrageous claims all the time to promote them, people who are paid to be talking heads on TV speculate wildly about things all the time. This does not constitute evidence.

Lots and lots of people talked about 'red mercury', that doesn't make it real, does it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury

Apart from rumour, whispers and paranoid conspiracies there is zero actual physical evidence that these WMD's ever existed, despite a decade of occupying Iraq and going over the country with a forensic toothcomb.

Despite offering massive rewards to anyone that could bring forth even the tiniest scrap of evidence, there is still no physical evidence, no paper trail, nothing.

There are no cleaners that used to clean the facilities, there are no delivery drivers that delivered food, there are no low ranking troops that were assigned guard duty, there are no high ranking officers with a few photocopies of incriminating documents.