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19 Apr 2014, 2:20 pm

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nice to see that people here takes calls calling for the genocide of men some using methods like stabbings as humor. and refuse to answer if it will be still humor if this was directed as women.

I will remember this thread next time when you whine about misogyny in future threads.


If it was done in humour. I mean, it would be very bad humour, because men do kill quite a lot of women because they are women, and there is an imbalance of power between genders. Thing is, because of that difference in context, and because of the utter lack of nuance MRAs seem to possess, I don't think it would be in humour. There are MRA videos that brood and threat in an obscene use of the passive voice how, sometime soon, if the feminists don't back down and let the MRAs get their way, there'll be an explosion of male violence directed at women. Implication: men will hurt women and it will all be the fault of feminists.

But yes, if it was people goofing off on Twitter - should I go and find every example of actual, non-goofy misogyny on Twitter and have you repeatedly apologise for and/or condemn and/or distance yourself from it?

And if it was done in seriousness? [Whispers] Dude, it already is.

Anyway, do you know who the real victim is? Muggins here. Because the fedora has been humiliated and ruined as a hat, so now I'm going to have to get a f*****g Homburg.


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19 Apr 2014, 2:24 pm

so you all think calling for men to be killed jokes. ok why don't you tell these feminists that they should also take jokes who get men fired for jokes they don't like.


news stories of men getting fired over dark humor by mainstream feminists



An indian woman living in Austin, Texas, took offense at a small joke posted on a sign outside a bar that said "I like my beer like I like my domestic violence: domestic". She freaked out, took a picture of it, posted it on Facebook and it went viral. Next day the bar manager fired the guy who posted the sign.


http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/aus ... fault.aspx



Canadian Feminist Kyla Garvey Gets Two Firemen Fired

http://www.returnofkings.com/17666/cana ... emen-fired




Feminist gets programmers fired because she felt uncomfortable overhearing their dongle joke. Even took their pics and posted it on twitter.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/break ... n-twitter/


Feminist tries to get veteran fired over Twitter

http://facts-not-feminism.deviantart.co ... -447803591


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19 Apr 2014, 2:28 pm

If I bothered to look I'm sure I could find just as many women as victims in similar situations.
Are you paranoid of women?You think I'd let someone hurt my son?


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19 Apr 2014, 2:30 pm

Hopper wrote:
sephardic-male wrote:
nice to see that people here takes calls calling for the genocide of men some using methods like stabbings as humor. and refuse to answer if it will be still humor if this was directed as women.

I will remember this thread next time when you whine about misogyny in future threads.


If it was done in humour. I mean, it would be very bad humour, because men do kill quite a lot of women because they are women, and there is an imbalance of power between genders. Thing is, because of that difference in context, and because of the utter lack of nuance MRAs seem to possess, I don't think it would be in humour. There are MRA videos that brood and threat in an obscene use of the passive voice how, sometime soon, if the feminists don't back down and let the MRAs get their way, there'll be an explosion of male violence directed at women. Implication: men will hurt women and it will all be the fault of feminists.

But yes, if it was people goofing off on Twitter - should I go and find every example of actual, non-goofy misogyny on Twitter and have you repeatedly apologise for and/or condemn and/or distance yourself from it?

And if it was done in seriousness? [Whispers] Dude, it already is.

Anyway, do you know who the real victim is? Muggins here. Because the fedora has been humiliated and ruined as a hat, so now I'm going to have to get a f***ing Homburg.


get a fez--fezzes are cool. also bowties. :wink:



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19 Apr 2014, 2:34 pm

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If I bothered to look I'm sure I could find just as many women as victims in similar situations.
Are you paranoid of women?You think I'd let someone hurt my son?


feminism is an ideology. it is not synonymous with women


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19 Apr 2014, 2:41 pm

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I assume the Juice placard is a photoshop? What is the joke, I don't get it.


Its not photoshopped.

He obviously meant "Death to All Jews" (which is no laughing matter). But since he is such an ignorant doofus who cant spell- it came out as a promotion of genocide against Tropocana products. So its hard not to laugh at him.



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19 Apr 2014, 2:45 pm

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If I bothered to look I'm sure I could find just as many women as victims in similar situations.
Are you paranoid of women?You think I'd let someone hurt my son?


feminism is an ideology. it is not synonymous with women

Are you paranoid of feminists? If I do the same job as you,do it as well,shouldn't I get paid the same?


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19 Apr 2014, 2:48 pm

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so you all think calling for men to be killed jokes. ok why don't you tell these feminists that they should also take jokes who get men fired for jokes they don't like.


news stories of men getting fired over dark humor by mainstream feminists



An indian woman living in Austin, Texas, took offense at a small joke posted on a sign outside a bar that said "I like my beer like I like my domestic violence: domestic". She freaked out, took a picture of it, posted it on Facebook and it went viral. Next day the bar manager fired the guy who posted the sign.


http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/aus ... fault.aspx



Canadian Feminist Kyla Garvey Gets Two Firemen Fired

http://www.returnofkings.com/17666/cana ... emen-fired




Feminist gets programmers fired because she felt uncomfortable overhearing their dongle joke. Even took their pics and posted it on twitter.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/break ... n-twitter/


Feminist tries to get veteran fired over Twitter

http://facts-not-feminism.deviantart.co ... -447803591


What is wrong with any of this?

You're seriously going to go to the wall defending a sign that makes a mockery of domestic violence (further 'humour' added for the part alcohol plays in such crimes)? Really? You think that's a-ok?

I also like - well, 'like' - that in the post you link to on that story, they say how 60% of domestic abuse is of men at the hands of women, yet they are more affronted by a woman's complaint that got a man fired than the sign in the first place. That's the kind of confused 'thinking' you end up with in MRA world. This is what I mean when I say MRAs hate feminists more than they do any of the purported inustices men suffer.

Is it really cramping anyone's day to not be a sexist, misogynist prick? To constantly worry that if you call a woman a stupid b***h, or shout after her that you like her arse, that she might take it the 'wrong' way? If so, you have issues way beyond the impending feminazi matriarchy.


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19 Apr 2014, 2:49 pm

starvingartist wrote:
sephardic-male wrote:
nice to see that people here takes calls calling for the genocide of men some using methods like stabbings as humor. and refuse to answer if it will be still humor if this was directed as women.

I will remember this thread next time when you whine about misogyny in future threads.


if it were more than about 5 women out of the approx 3 billion women on the planet that were calling for the death of all men, i might be concerned. why should i be concerned about the misandry of a handful of people? i don't know them and i don't support them. if it were a large organisation with lots of public support calling for the death of all men, obviously it would be a very different story and something to be concerned about.

a handful of whackjobs are just that--a handful of whackjobs, and not to be taken seriously. if you really believe this is the sort of thing to get genuinely upset about, you may want to consider rearranging your emotional priorities.


Last time I checked, men still kill/assault other men much more frequently than women kill/assault men.

I can't really see a huge threat in a Twitter hash tag.


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19 Apr 2014, 2:57 pm

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If I bothered to look I'm sure I could find just as many women as victims in similar situations.
Are you paranoid of women?You think I'd let someone hurt my son?


feminism is an ideology. it is not synonymous with women

Are you paranoid of feminists? If I do the same job as you,do it as well,shouldn't I get paid the same?


were did i say i am against equal pay for the same job as i do? i am a humanist and an egalitarian



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What is wrong with any of this?

You're seriously going to go to the wall defending a sign that makes a mockery of domestic violence (further 'humour' added for the part alcohol plays in such crimes)? Really? You think that's a-ok?

Is it really cramping your day to not be a sexist, misogynist prick? To constantly worry that if you call a woman a stupid b***h, or shout after her that you like her arse, that she might take it the 'wrong' way? If so, you have issues way beyond the impending feminazi matriarchy.



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19 Apr 2014, 3:02 pm

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tell me how feminists are, or feminism is, in any way a significant block to the ending of male circumcision.


I'll be happy to respond to you once you quote me correctly.

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Raising the issue of male circumcision is also easily taken as anti-semitism. [...] Far better to have a go at feminists for not doing what you want them to - it allows one the luxury of pretending it could all be sorted out if it weren't for feminism.


Oh, is that what I'm doing?

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19 Apr 2014, 3:10 pm

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Raising the issue of male circumcision is also easily taken as anti-semitism. [...] Far better to have a go at feminists for not doing what you want them to - it allows one the luxury of pretending it could all be sorted out if it weren't for feminism.


Oh, is that what I'm doing?


quite succinctly, yes.



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19 Apr 2014, 3:15 pm

You just seem sort of obsessed in a negative way,that's all I'm saying.
Men tell nasty jokes to other men(women do too), all the time,some are funny,some are not,it's up to individuals to say,hey,that's joke's not cool.
But you have to cut those of us who like dark humor some slack,we can't help it,we were born this way.


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19 Apr 2014, 3:21 pm

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I assume the Juice placard is a photoshop? What is the joke, I don't get it.


Its not photoshopped.

He obviously meant "Death to All Jews" (which is no laughing matter). But since he is such an ignorant doofus who cant spell- it came out as a promotion of genocide against Tropocana products. So its hard not to laugh at him.


Ty. I can't believe I didn't see that :pale:



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19 Apr 2014, 3:53 pm

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tell me how feminists are, or feminism is, in any way a significant block to the ending of male circumcision.


I'll be happy to respond to you once you quote me correctly.


Oh, pffft. I thought I was quite clear, but obviously not. If there's anything you take issue with in what I've said, by all means, do. But that's about all I have to say to you - and other MRAs - on the matter.

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Raising the issue of male circumcision is also easily taken as anti-semitism. [...] Far better to have a go at feminists for not doing what you want them to - it allows one the luxury of pretending it could all be sorted out if it weren't for feminism.


Oh, is that what I'm doing?


Yes. There is no reason to drag feminists into this. It would be good if they were supportive of the issue - and many are, ffs - but to suppose feminism is in any way behind the perpetuation of male circumcision is stoooooooopid.

MRAs cannot but leap from talking about how the matter needs to be taken more seriously - 100% with them up to this point - without then leaping into how the feminists are against FGM but not MGM and oh! the hypocrisy. Which then devolves into stuff like this, of 'yes you are' 'no we're not' ' yes you are' ' no we're not', all the while male circumcision carries on unheeded. Why? Because MRAs would sooner make pissy jabs at feminists than actually do something about non-consented/medical male circumsision.

Frankly, this is what happens when your 'movement' can't analyse or critique for s**t. My call on the matter is, as stated, that MRAs are far, far more interested and invested in attacking and blaming feminists and feminism than they are in actually getting the issues they protest about thought about, talked about, and dealt with.

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I know male circumcision can kill! I'm against the practice, for goodness sake. Have I not made that clear? So, advocates of circumcision say: this particular form of circumcision is comparatively rare, there are far safer ways of performing the ritual, and indeed procedure. To which those of us opposed to such thing say.....? All together now: regardless of the safety of the procedure, it is still unnecessary surgery performed on an unconsenting child denying them the right to bodily integrity. Thank you!


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