LIFE; What is it?

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One particular offering - the ever-controversial and enigmatic dance of the electric and magnetic:

Yes, as metaphor, getting in balance with the polarities of life;
Using Light and Dark as a mix of propelling emotional and
sensory energy;

It's an innate, instinctual, and intuitive process for me;
and whatever the organic components are,
the relative free will that I create
as human being in the i
of I for the spirit
in exclamation
point! flow
does
seem
rather
atomic
in nature of
magnetic and electric
properties; but to feel
the power of it and the effects
of this AFFECT IS REAL; ALTHOUGH
not everyone feels this FORCE OF HUMAN
AS STRONG; AND SOME SO SADLY, LITTLE AT ALL;
I FOR one can say; from my own personal experience
of wearing so many human shoes in just one life as
many people do
today
with or
without
this real
HUMAN FORCE.

you need to resume your meds, poor schizoprenic people.

Perhaps, if you get a spelling lesson, you will Know WHAT
the hell you are talking about too, my little man..

I didn't get a beautiful wife, financially independent,
and literally hundreds of gorgeous dance partners
as documented on my blogs; from
having mental illness, friend.

I am creative with imagination
and the women love me, just the way I am.

And if you think I'm blowing smoke out of somewhere, you can do a little Google search on
"God's Muse of Dance", and see all the irrefutable evidence, in close to 200 gorgeous girls smiling ear to
ear, hanging on me as well, by the muse of dance I bring.

And one day, if you get to be a really big man like me, you can press maybe close to half a ton like me,
in the video provided below, when you grow out of your domesticated diapers my friend, as well.

But meanwhile keep your LITTLE personal attacks to yourself, AND better directed at yourself;
as I am real and CAN PROVE IT IN PHOTOS; and you are just 4 letters on a screen
and nothing more, at least for now, online..



Perhaps, you will be another one of the 'fun ones' here for me..

If so, looking forward to that as well..

^^^
And IN addendum:

And by the way, speaking of amoebas that ARE alive,
including Fetuses, from the moment of conception,
as science DOES PROVE IN BIOLOGY 101 CLASSES;

I find folks who go around doing little personal attacks,
hiding behind faceless avatars, online, less than amoebas
AND human. You would never ever dare to do that to may face,
at 230LBS of muscle and clear headed martial arts skills. But anyone
can be a big man on the Internet, huh, behind a faceless user name.

Folks like you disgust me; and boy do I really love to play with them in
FLESH AND BLOOD LIFE.. IT'S fun to be able to do stuff, no one will ever
expect
is
even
humanly possible.
And I'm talking about
Martial Arts REAL LIFE skills;
not Voodoo, or such as that.
I CLEARLY STATED ABOVE
I AM USING METAPHORS.
IF ONE DAY
YOU SPELL
AND READ INTERPRETIVELY, AS WELL;
CHI IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
DUDE; AND ANY REAL MARTIAL
ARTIST CAN TELL YA
THAT'S AS REAL
AS THE NOSE
ON YOUR
FACE; BUT
YOU DO NOT
SHOW A NOSE,
HERE, SO THERE IS
no evidence yet, YOU
HAVE ONE OF THOSE EITHER..

I am sure that the brightest philosophers have already come to grips with it... the mathematicians are preoccupied with their surrealistic fantasies.

Defining life and consciousness would be an impossible thing for a Materialist. Even an amoeba will try to retreat from an hostile chemical... is that consciousness?

Perhaps more to the point of your insinuation about consciousness, 8 to 18 year-old humans tend to assume that younger or older are not yet, or way past, fully consciousness. Extend the same kind of rationale before 8 days and after 80 years.

@ Oldavid

Penrose....surrealistic fantasies?

Please tell me who these philosophers who have a grip on consciousness are.

There is nothing surreal about mathematics, you are confusing abstraction with surreal. The main application is to come up with physical models, and theoretical physics relates to physical models too, even when there are hypothetical parts.

Quite frankly Oldavid you are waffling, if you ever had a semblance of a point it is long past that. I ask again what is the point of these threads? You resent the fact that other's don't agree with you? Go an find those that do and get over it.

The second thing: I asked you multiple times, is given this is your premise, when are you actually goign to provide the goods as far as showing what models in philosophy which do a better job at explaining things than science? So far nothing, just you don't like the idea that science is necessarily the best tool for the job. Great, good for you.

It is you creating a mountain out of a molehill. You don't want to elaborate, but berate science and scientists, who have done nothing but do what they aught to be doing.

Agreed. Are amoebas not living beings? I don't think they are worthy of rights or protection, but they're certainly both alive and being.


It's easier for a materialist than... whatever it is that you are, exactly. A dualist? You've not provided any sensible definition of life, whereas the materialists who have posted in this thread have made real stabs at it. Dualists postulate something undetectable and pretend that answers the question, rather than simply punting it into the long grass. Materialists attempt to answer it and acknowledge that they aren't there yet.

No.
Consciousness, at least for me, requires a mental state rather than a simple reflex. Amoebas do not have that.

Helsinki University have long been involved with research into consciousness using mathematics. I read they have now been able to organise a big conference on the subject.

Quote:

"Consciousness, at least for me, requires a mental state rather than a simple reflex. Amoebas do not have that."

Well, there is one difference.

Amoeba's have Amoeba DNA.

And a second old Fetus
has the DNA to

CREATE A UNIQUE
potential Eventual 'Einstein',
'Beethoven', 'Bruce Lee', and the
run of the mill 'Fred'; & others.

Narrow minds see small things.

Broader minds see BigGER things.

That sums it up, rather nicely I think.

And no offense toward narrow minds;

Not reAlly different than the analogy of the Amoeba and the Fetus.

Nature AKA GOD produces Diversity. Only humans judge some
of that diversity less worthy of life on a philosophical level.

The rest of Nature lives on with
the survival of the fittest for reproduction
and general subsistence requirements for survival TO GO ON.

But of course when subsistence is the issue the weak go first;

Whether that is an infant that looks defective or a Lion cub.

And of course the Lion Cub is much more viable than an infant, as far
as Interdependent survival goes when human goes toe to CLAW with LION.

And as far as the game of survival goes; amoebas, roaches, and dragonflies
are likely to be here billions of years after much weaker humans, in the biggest
game of life AS survival goes, as they have already stood the test of evolutionary
challenge AS greaTEST test of all; yes, again, the ability to survive against all odds.

Every time a human aborts a child the rest of Nature goes YAY! Well nah; please do
NOT take that literal; But if the rest of Nature could talk in terms of the level of callous
suffering that has been inflicted on the rest of Nature, by the most heinous virus of all
that is human cultures; tHere WILL be a roar that WiLL 'DEAFEN', AS the strongest lungs,
FROM THE biggest 'LION' OF ALL; God as Metaphor of Course, for Nature.

Nature wins in the end; Evolutionary history shows that again and again;

And even Godzilla and Blue Oyster Cult. Life is NATURE; END OF STORY.

AND HUMANS OVERALL, ARE 'STUPID'; END OF THAT
STORY TOO; Any animal that lives OUT OF BALANCE
WITH NATURE is 'stupid'; big words or NOT; WITH
ability to separate 'itself' from the rest of nature
THAT overall is the beginning of existential
ANGST, and a life of general anxiety,
in the first place; Along with the
destruction of the rest of nature
with callous intention as
separated from
IT AKA GOD.
SOONER or later;
NATURE WILL HAVE
'HER' WAY with
humans too.

And Nature has a way
of distributing 'Karma'
'evenly', so things are not
looking too good for the 'SAD'
eventual end of human beings;
Unless, 'THEY' straighten up and
GET IN BALANCE WITH SOME
REAL Unconditional Love for
GOD AKA THE REST OF NATURE.

Seriously, IF MOST ALL human beings understand
that GOD is Nature and Love Nature UnconditionALLY;
THAT CAN be a REAL LIFE SAVER, IN MORE WAYS THAN
one. And THAT makes all the REAL RELIGIOUS SENSE IN
the WORLD;

LITERALLY NOW.



Yes, God is much more like Godzilla than so-called Jesus; and Godzilla
and or Nature will F U S U P, IF 'anyone' GETS IN THE WAY OF NATURE that
IS GODZILLA; ONE and
same, AS metaphor
of course.

I LOVE 'Godzilla';
UNCONDITIONALLY;
'Godzilla' makes me
wanna
ROAR,
KINDA
LIKE THIS..



WITH ALL DUE HUMOR INTENDED;
AND OH GOD, I hope that is
'ALLOWED' WITH
'broader
mind'....
INTENDED..

(;without some much
narrower mind;
suggesting I am
insane, or whatever
is 'their' flavor of the moment,
of little personal attacks:)

OR NOT.

His response to that will be God did it because the Bible is right and never wrong and for the rest is all magic, witchcraft and alchemy!

Abstract mathematics is completely manipulatable by creating imaginary inputs designed to achieve the desired result. It's good that aircraft engineers' mathematics don't operate like that.

Aristotle made a good start that was developed further in the Scholastic schools. Much of the stuff that is sold as "philosophy" these days is barely more than the rants of egomaniacs... rather like the "science" sold in the "establishment" and media.

Aristotle famously got many of his scientific "observations" completely wrong (such as saying eels are living mud). The worship of him by medieval scholars set rational thought back by centuries.

Correct.

god-of-dem-der-gaps