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Would you date a feminist?
Yes 37%  37%  [ 55 ]
No 36%  36%  [ 53 ]
Ima girl 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Ima girl and still yes 19%  19%  [ 29 ]
I'm a feminist and I am offended by this thread 6%  6%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 149

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21 Mar 2016, 4:19 pm


Christina Hoff Summers is one of the few "feminists" that don't hate men.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:22 pm

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Men can be feminists, too.


I am not a feminist because I do not support the dominance of a certain gender, I support equal rights. I do not support labels that paint a black and white side, there is always a middle ground.

Patriarchy isn't always positive if that position of power is abused. The domestic violence rate in Russia far exceeds any Western country and they practice Patriarchy very strongly.

We should not see ourselves as different labels but as equals, men and women should be free. I am a firm believer in democracy and that women have a right to choose. Power can corrupt anyone, regardless of gender.

I would prefer to date a feminist over a woman that was submissive because tradition or law dictated it.

I'm a feminist because I support equal rights.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:25 pm

I'm a egalitarian, because I am against any group, race, or sex having special privileges and entitlements. No special laws for any. Everyone should be treated the same under the law.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:28 pm

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I'm a egalitarian, because I am against any group, race, or sex having special privileges and entitlements. No special laws for any. Everyone should be treated the same under the law.

I'm also against a group having special privileges, that's what the laws are designed to prevent.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:28 pm

Feminism is just equality, ignore the people who like to argue from either extreme, they are at the wrong end of the horse-shoe.

I would not date someone who didn't believe they were my equal, might even date a lady who thought she was my superior, as long as she brought her own whip and handcuffs.

This just seems like common sense, who the hell wants to be in charge anyway?



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21 Mar 2016, 4:29 pm

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What about her age now??? :rambo:

A 17 year old Feminist isn't so far-fetched, in fact, this millenial generation about my age are absolutely full of little third-wave feminists.

And their boyfriends? Somewhat submissive males who are also 'feminists' and coincidentally almost always skinny guys, slightly effeminate, extremely nerdy/geeky.

Every girl I've dated has constantly been infected with this trend.

I believe, when it comes to dating, for the first three dates, whoever does the asking should do the paying, out of politeness and courtesy, and then after that it should be split.

Instead, every gal I've dated has absolute insisted on always paying for everything for herself - even my ex-girlfriend's mother suggested I should be the one who pays for our third date 'to treat her' as her family payed for me when I first met them, but that never happened.

I'm too traditional and chivalrous sometimes for these neo-feminists.

And those same girls cheat on those guys with muscular men, yet they would never date muscular men. Men with muscles equates to higher testosterone. Men with higher testosterone aren't as easily manipulated.


Well, you've certainly got the nerdy/geeky part right, Outrider. :)

CommanderKeen, I'm not opposed to the idea of dating muscular men. My boyfriend is pretty fit, and I've had crushes on several distinctly muscular guys at various times.

I would never cheat on my boyfriend. Not sure why you assume that I would...?

I don't really I understand why you imply that I am somehow manipulating him. "Manipulation" is defined as " to manage or utilize skillfully" or "to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manipulate). I am not doing any of these things.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm

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Location...Maryland. That explains a lot.

What do you mean?



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21 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm

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Location...Maryland. That explains a lot.

What do you mean?


COOKIES!



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21 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm

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Location...Maryland. That explains a lot.

What do you mean?

I meant there are a lot of extreme "feminists" in Maryland, but I got rid of the comment because you don't seem to be like that.



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21 Mar 2016, 4:58 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
Outrider wrote:
What about her age now??? :rambo:

A 17 year old Feminist isn't so far-fetched, in fact, this millenial generation about my age are absolutely full of little third-wave feminists.

And their boyfriends? Somewhat submissive males who are also 'feminists' and coincidentally almost always skinny guys, slightly effeminate, extremely nerdy/geeky.

Every girl I've dated has constantly been infected with this trend.

I believe, when it comes to dating, for the first three dates, whoever does the asking should do the paying, out of politeness and courtesy, and then after that it should be split.

Instead, every gal I've dated has absolute insisted on always paying for everything for herself - even my ex-girlfriend's mother suggested I should be the one who pays for our third date 'to treat her' as her family payed for me when I first met them, but that never happened.

I'm too traditional and chivalrous sometimes for these neo-feminists.


And those same girls cheat on those guys with muscular men, yet they would never date muscular men. Men with muscles equates to higher testosterone. Men with higher testosterone aren't as easily manipulated.



They only cheat with muscular men so long as those musclemen are tall. I've observed that height is often more attractive to women than big muscles. A lot of musclemen aren't born with that build, they develop it through discipline. But in particular, it is muscular men who are also ATHLETIC that women cheat on their partners with! I mean srsly, those powerlifters whose pictures you posted a while back are gross, ugly_ass lards. There is a difference between being muscular and being a roided out bodybuilder!


Keep in mind that musculature and height are not the only things that turn women on....musical talent works just as well if not moreso along with being very extroverted and charismatic.



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21 Mar 2016, 5:27 pm

LydiaMarie wrote:
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I am a heterosexual female and yes, I would definitely date a feminist of the sort who believes in gender equality. In fact, my boyfriend is a feminist, as am I.


Only women can be feminist. :oops:


Well, he believes in gender equality and describes himself as a feminist. Why do say that only females can be feminist?


I do not believe that desiring equal rights makes someone a feminist, feminism is the support of a matriarchy and dominion.

If you support equal rights, it means you are a libertarian, not a feminist.



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21 Mar 2016, 5:33 pm

AspE wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can be feminists, too.


I am not a feminist because I do not support the dominance of a certain gender, I support equal rights. I do not support labels that paint a black and white side, there is always a middle ground.

Patriarchy isn't always positive if that position of power is abused. The domestic violence rate in Russia far exceeds any Western country and they practice Patriarchy very strongly.

We should not see ourselves as different labels but as equals, men and women should be free. I am a firm believer in democracy and that women have a right to choose. Power can corrupt anyone, regardless of gender.

I would prefer to date a feminist over a woman that was submissive because tradition or law dictated it.

I'm a feminist because I support equal rights.


No, good sir, that makes you a libertarian and a Marxist.



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21 Mar 2016, 5:35 pm

Depends. If it's one of those extremists you see like on tumblr, then no.


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21 Mar 2016, 5:39 pm

Nocturnus wrote:
AspE wrote:
Nocturnus wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can be feminists, too.


I am not a feminist because I do not support the dominance of a certain gender, I support equal rights. I do not support labels that paint a black and white side, there is always a middle ground.

Patriarchy isn't always positive if that position of power is abused. The domestic violence rate in Russia far exceeds any Western country and they practice Patriarchy very strongly.

We should not see ourselves as different labels but as equals, men and women should be free. I am a firm believer in democracy and that women have a right to choose. Power can corrupt anyone, regardless of gender.

I would prefer to date a feminist over a woman that was submissive because tradition or law dictated it.

I'm a feminist because I support equal rights.


No, good sir, that makes you a libertarian and a Marxist.


Nocy, feminism is about gender equality. Women and men being treated as equals, anything else is just some personal agenda.
Women are not equal yet, and in many places are treated as less than human, support feminism but don't buy into the myth that it's all about the extreme.



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21 Mar 2016, 6:15 pm

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...No, good sir, that makes you a libertarian and a Marxist.

No, just a feminist. And your superficial expression of politeness doesn't make that statement any less stupid.



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21 Mar 2016, 6:30 pm

Nocturnus wrote:
AspE wrote:
Nocturnus wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can be feminists, too.


I am not a feminist because I do not support the dominance of a certain gender, I support equal rights. I do not support labels that paint a black and white side, there is always a middle ground.

Patriarchy isn't always positive if that position of power is abused. The domestic violence rate in Russia far exceeds any Western country and they practice Patriarchy very strongly.

We should not see ourselves as different labels but as equals, men and women should be free. I am a firm believer in democracy and that women have a right to choose. Power can corrupt anyone, regardless of gender.

I would prefer to date a feminist over a woman that was submissive because tradition or law dictated it.

I'm a feminist because I support equal rights.


No, good sir, that makes you a libertarian and a Marxist.



Marxism is quite a bit more than equal rights, I'm afraid.

As far as libetarianism goes, that doesn't work so well for equal rights since unrestricted freedom and equality under the law cannot coexist with each other.

So in short, Marxism and libetarianism are 2 polar extremes and you're setting up a false dichotomy there.