Do you feel Trump is our modern Hitler?

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27 Nov 2016, 8:52 pm

If nothing else, he is too old to be around long enough to become a real Hitler.

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27 Nov 2016, 8:57 pm

president pence may well be in our future, unfortunately.

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27 Nov 2016, 10:21 pm

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yes, pence is one of the worst kinds of hypocrite, a gay man ["ex" according to him] who supports the persecution under cover of law, of other gays.

Pence is an "ex" gay?

Never heard that before.

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27 Nov 2016, 10:29 pm

Just because he is a demagogue who exploits the tribal fears, and xenophobia of White America; and just because he has an urge to punish, and just because he appoints a White surpremist into his inner ruling circle, and just because he has a persecution complex, does that make him another Hitler? Well...it makes him a guy outwardly acts a lot like Hitler.

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28 Nov 2016, 2:25 am

No way. Hitler at least had some qualifications for his job. :lol:

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28 Nov 2016, 3:02 pm

I don't believe he has Hitlerian notions.

Though we have to be on he lookout for signs that he might have these notions.

I believe the Congress will never allow the Executive Branch under Trump to overstep its power.

What I'm worried about is the first "100 days," when there's, seemingly, a sweetheart deal between the Congress and the President.

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28 Nov 2016, 3:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

The Executive Branch has been overstepping its power for decades.

Anyway, Trump may not have Hitlerian notions, but he does have a Hitlerian demeanor.

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28 Nov 2016, 3:46 pm

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Trump is not any kind of "Hitler". His actions as President will be well constrained by the U.S. Constitution. Hitler was possible in Germany because the Germans had little experience with constitutional republican government. The Weimar Constitution was established in 1919 and was essentially terminate in 1935 when Hitler was granted "emergency powers" which made him a dictator. This cannot happen in the United States. The U.S. constitution was established in 1787 and has been in effect 239 years. Even the Civil War did not break it. In the U.S. we are accustomed to living under a Constitutional Republic and even the stresses of a civil war and several severe economic depressions has not broken it.

The Democrats would love to get rid of him. The core Republicans do not particularly like him. If he ever gives a reason for impeachment both Democrats and Republicans will be all over him like ants at a picnic. He would then be very likely removed from office. The odds are that Trump is here to stay for 4 years. Get used to it. And don't forget who and what is vice president. It is in your interest to wish Trump well.

Yup if trump dies or gets impeached before his term is up.....we get Pence.

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28 Nov 2016, 3:57 pm

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Yup if trump dies or gets impeached before his term is up.....we get Pence.

Trump is not capable of doing his new job properly anyway, so we get that regardless.

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28 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

AJisHere wrote:

Anyway, Trump may not have Hitlerian notions, but he does have a Hitlerian demeanor.

I don't know, I think the Führer was a bit more dignified.

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28 Nov 2016, 5:00 pm

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I don't know, I think the Führer was a bit more dignified.

For sure.

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28 Nov 2016, 6:43 pm

Remember: "Impeached" only means "indicted."

Trump would have to be convicted of the offense he was "impeached" on in order to be thrown out of office.

Clinton was the second President to be "impeached." Andrew Johnson was the first, in about 1868. Both were acquitted and served out their terms.

Nixon wasn't even "impeached." He resigned before that could happen.

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28 Nov 2016, 8:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Correct. Getting an indictment of Trump would not be hard.

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28 Nov 2016, 8:24 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

Correct. Getting an indictment of Trump would not be hard.

The House is controlled by Republicans. Do you think the Republican House would originate a bill of impeachment against Trump. Not very likely. All bills of impeachment must originate in the House. Impeachment is an idictment. The trial is held by the Senate presided over by the chief justice of the Supreme Courtn,

There are have been only two impeachments and in each case the verdict was to to remove the President from office.

If Bill Clinton had gotten a blow-job from Sharon Stone he would never have been impeached.

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28 Nov 2016, 8:30 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Trump could be removed using the methods in section IV of the 25th amendment without impeaching him or even convicting him. Just requires a letter.

Would require Mike Pence and the majority of his cabinet to deam him unfit (without cabinet support, it'd require the majority of the house and majority of senate's support).

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28 Nov 2016, 8:44 pm

Actually, both were acquitted, and both served their full terms in office.

Both Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.

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