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So ignore all of the evidence because 'you know. The Israelis bombed one of your ships for 3 hours, they can do what they want. Sorry, you're making it out like I'm aying Israel attacked you. Parts of your government and part of Israel's did it, and lower parts of the FBI were left infuriated. Patsies from the gulf states were just paid. The plan was set out in the late 90's.

But where's the proof, other than conspiracy theories?

From what I've seen today, i'm not so sure anymore. Russia are being attacked again by .. it could be another turkish rebel police squad, or hidden supporters of ISIS have surprised Assad's regime by conducting fake terrorism on a non passenger flight carrying military bound resources tracked from Turkey, after the last attempt over Turkish territory bound by Russians.
I wish they'd all put their big guns away and conduct military operations fairly without either side lost to the conflict they have since ensued, and discontinue issuing mail order chaos on evacuues. We need Boris back to stabilize the cost of freeing up a one arms race thus far.

You really need to get over this notion of "conspiracy theories". Conspiracies happen all the time. The US was lead into 2 wars against Iraq because of conspiracy theories pumped out by the media. It was a conspiracy theory that we went into Libya because we wanted to free the people of Libya. It was a conspiracy theory that we wanted to go into Syria in 2013 because Assad attacked his own people with chemical weapons. All pumped out by the mainstream/corporate media. And there's no end to it. Instead, you actually need to look at the facts. Multiple Israelis were arrested on the day, and no one is suggesting that it was just that Israel attacked the US and that's not possible because they wouldn't want to lose their backing. Israel attacked a US ship before and you believed the conspiracy theory that it was just a mistake. In the late 1990's the think tank, the Project For The New American Century was formed and it called for a new Pearl Harbor in order to have a pretext to get into Iraq and change the regime. Instead we were fed a bunch of lies as to why we needed to go into Iraq.

I wouldn't be surprised if a great number of people had been arrested after 9/11, only to be released when found to have had no connection to the attack. A few of them, in this case, happened to be Israelis. That doesn't prove a conspiracy.

Look, I know there's just no amount of evidence I could produce to you that would change your mind. I only continue hoping that others with open minds will see what I write, even if it's just one person. Numerous Israelis were arrested on 9/11, not by mistake, some were arrested with explosives in their van and others were arrested with traces of explosives in their van, one of the men being positively identified as being the man seen in one of the towers the day before. They were deported back to Israel on visa violations and went onto an Israeli talk show saying they were there to "document the event". What evidence do you have that some guy in a cave on dialysis did it all?

If that man on dialysis has a professional terror network at his disposal, along with a grudge against the USA, anything is possible.
I'm just not seeing the Israelis having it out for their benefactor.

It was planes piloted by Saudi Arabs that flew into TWC on 9/11. This is all easily documented. People witnessed it. Thousands. Did Israelis pay Saudi's to fly suicide missions? What is your point? It makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

All news is "fake" to some degree. Very little is pure made up fiction but most news is biased, slanted and incomplete. Actually a total lie is much less harmful than a half truth. No one will believe a total lie but a half truth can mislead.

OK I get it, you don't believe it so it isn't true...

The US and Israel have used Al Qaeda for covert operations before and after 9/11, why is it so hard to believe they'd have done it on 9/11.

Even in the late '40s and early '50s it was clear to my little self all news was "fake" or slanted...it was easy.

At that time in Chicago there were two prominent newspapers, The Tribune and The Sun-Times. I noticed early on they printed news differently and asked someone why (I think it was my Dad). The differences were obvious...everyone knew about it...and no one complained...it was "a fact of life"

It was explained to me The Tribune was a politically Republican newspaper and The Sun-Times was a Democratic newspaper and each favored news beneficial to their political party (we only got the Sun-Times, but occasionally got the "Trib" for it's financial section).

I'm sure this has been true since writing consisted of chiseled stone and mud/clay tablets. I think it comes to prominence this year because of all the whiners/poor losers looking for something to bich about.

Old folks news system/OFF

"It was planes piloted by Saudi Arabs that flew into TWC on 9/11"

Sounds like a good reason to blow up Afghanistan and Iraq right? And where did I deny this anyway?

"Did Israelis pay Saudi's to fly suicide missions? What is your point?"

Yes, and neocons in the US. The explosives in the buildings were to make sure that they actually collapsed for awe and the owner had recently taken a lease out on them which made him billions. Strange, as the buildings were full of asbestos and utterly worthless. Building 7 collapsed in the same manner, and where was the plane for that? People heard explosions in that building too.

No, it's because your argument has no supportive evidence, save for the purely circumstantial "evidence" of Israelis being temporarily held by authorities, that said Israelis had allegedly been cheering as the towers fell, and because a van rented by them allegedly had bomb residue. That, and because you personally hate Israel.
And what proof is there that Bin Laden ever worked for America or Israel? Bin Laden wanted us out of Saudi Arabia, feeling infidels on the land of the Prophet was an insult that couldn't be forgiven. While many fighters in Afghanistan had been trained and financed by the US, Bin Laden and his crew were not one of them, because as a millionaire, Bin Laden could self-finance his organization rather than depending on the hated infidels.
After Pearl Harbor, Churchill had gotten his first decent night's sleep in months, because he knew America would be entering into the war on the side of Britain. Did you consider the possibility that those Israelis, if they were indeed Mossad, were cheering for very much the same reason? That they thought this would have to set America into a win or death war with Islamic extremism?

Has anyone heard the explanation from our government why, at the Pentagon, they were unable to find any wings from the flight that supposedly hit it? I've seen both early and later photographic views of the scene (you can only find views of the cleaned-up site now).

The hole in the building was almost perfectly round with no evidence of impact to the sides; some might say more like a cruise missile.....now let me see...who does the U.S. trust with their cruise missiles??

This plus the sudden collapse of Building #7 makes me dubious of the government's claims. It's almost as though the buildings were built to fall intentionally.

The mainstream media is so unreliable we now have to get important breaking news like this from Twitter: