Do you know that the God of the Bible doesn't exist?

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I've found the question very fruitful indeed! For, we now realize, from the poll results, that we have no less than 38 omniscient WP members in our midst!! ! They were able to search every corner of the universe with just their minds... every dimension... to discover that it is Godless.

(BTW, I'm hiring for help with my homework, if any of them are interested. Also, I'll need to ask them which lottery numbers to pick.)

It quite honestly doesn't matter if god/gods exist. My daily life will be unaffected and I will go through the same motions no matter what the answer is.

Ragtime: Haven't you stopped to think that those people that crucified Jesus and tortured the apostles as you say, DIDN'T WANT TO BE CONVERTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? With today's society, having endless bible-bashers, Jehovah's Witness's, crusaders etc trying to persuade and convert by laying guilt trips on non-believers can really piss people off, so I can imagine what it was like back then having a bunch of 'evangelists' trying to spread the word to people who didn't care one way or another. AND like this current lot, they didn't have the brains to give up when they were told no, they kept on like a dog with a toy. Maybe one of your 'God's" teachings should have been when someone says no, leave them alone and stop with the guilt trips.

I am predicting he does his patented ignore maneuver.

I bet 500 rubles on this.

Are you in Chosen?

Including arguing about it?

2 to 1 on? I'm in.

Mother Russia greets you into her underground world of Ruble betting!

Actually, it was. Jesus to His disciples: "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town" (Matt 10:14-15).

And, "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces" (Matt 7:6).
That's what has happened on this forum. People have asked us questions (or, most often, demanded answers), we have given you wisdom, and you have not only trampled that wisdom, but cursed us for providing it! All we were doing was answering your questions to us, and we're attacked for giving our answers!

Nonetheless, enduring such is the common fare for Christians, just as Jesus said. "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you" (Matt 5:11-12). The prophets were "doomsday" preachers, so they were unpopular -- so much so that they were killed. Then, they were proven right, every time.

We share the truth in love, knowing we will be persecuted for saying it.

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Damnit, you may have your thousand Rubles.

I shall regain them in our Russian %100 income tax though.

Ragtime: that is pure BS and you know it. I find that entirely insulting of you to refer to us unbelievers as 'dogs and 'pigs' just because we choose not to believe your so-called wisdom. I have not trampled on your beliefs, I have merely said that yours aren't the only ones to be considered 'right'. Just proves my point about the close-mindedness of Christians in general, when they find themselves being questioned about their faith and beliefs, and being told that others feel comfortable with what they believe, they jump up and down and say 'but they HAVE to believe our way, because there is no other!' Sharing your religion and your beliefs with those that want to hear is one thing; calling others insulting terms just because they don't is another. And I would have expected something a little better from a so-called God of love than to be so pious.

That's the way the verse reads, and I'm not a fan of Scriptural revision/misquoting. I never said dogs and pigs, my Lord said it. And He was speaking in the slang and culture of the era. Gentiles were referred to as "dogs", and pigs were the most "unclean" animal in the area.

That's directly saying that our beliefs are completely wrong. I showed you the exclusivity with which Jesus made the point. He wasn't saying, "Sure, you can believe in me"; He said, "I'm it".

Which is tantamount to telling a Muslim that Mohammed was a liar, and Buddha was wrong etc etc. Either way you cut it, not everyone can be 'right', and not everyone is wrong either. For all we know, both of us could be right, but none of us will know until we die.

Well, Muhammed was a pedophile, we know, because one of his many wives was only 9 years old. He claimed some pretty extravagant and totally-unwitnessed miracles as well -- much more incredible than anything claimed in the New Testament.

And I don't suggest that people are morally wrong for believing in other religions. God only counts them at fault if they're not sincerely seeking the truth. No one goes to Hell by accident. Jesus said His Father wishes that none would perish eternally. God will sort it all out -- I wouldn't begin to personally claim such an ability of insight!


Works for me. I'm content.

The brain basically covers over the blind spot by blending in the surrounding visual textures. The fact that we do not notice them does not mean that they are not blind; you can test this yourself by looking at (for instance) a clock on the wall on the far side of the room. Turn your head until the clock is in your peripheral vision; when the clock is in your blind spot, it will seem to dissapear and the wall will seem to be plain and unadorned.

If you guys can find a way to claim that blind spots are good for humans to have, and that it makes sense to have the nerve axons on top of the retina rather than behind it, I'll start to listen. Until then, admit that it's a bogus argument because human eyes are less than perfect even by the standards of our own limited knowledge of optics and of life on this planet.

And I have one huge blind spot on my right due to the fact that my right retina has completely detached, and I am thus blind on that side. I had 5 eye operations to repair it, and none worked. I also had congenital cataracts (both eyes) which is why I needed the op in the first place. Oh, and before you Christians mention prayer and faith healing, tried that BEFORE I became pagan, and it didn't work (which could have influenced my decision, but I might have been headed that way anyway).

I wonder if Ragtime and fundamentalists have blind spots in their brain, not in their eyes.