magz wrote:
carlos55 wrote:
Russia sees Nazism as hatred of Russians only nothing to do with Jews.
In other words - paint whoever does not like me, for a good reason or not, as nazi. Handy. No responsibility for all the harm I did when those who hold a grudge against me are nazi by definition. Ain't it nice?
carlos55 wrote:
When the new style gov came to power back in 2014 they banned the Russian language
No, they didn't. Half of Ukrainians are native Russian speakers, includiung the president. They weren't banned nor rejected.
And don't you even go into the 2014 events in Donbas. I've met enough people who had to flee when the separatists took power and I've heard enough of what it looked like.
carlos55 wrote:
Ukraine needs a more inclusive gov reflective of its ethnic population
It does have. Jews, Tatars, Ukrainian-speakers, Russian-speakers - all are in the current Ukrainian govt. It's much more diverse than in many other countries, Russia included.
Russia should be more inclusive with all the ethnicities inhabiting Russian Federation - Buryats, Chechens, Chukchas, Tatars, countless others - to have fair representation in decision-making processes. Why are they calling others to do something they don't?
carlos55 wrote:
Also the countries surrounding Russia should remain neutral and not join NATO
Why TF do you tell us what to do?
In an ideal world, Rusia would not be a threat, so there'd be no need for us to join NATO - but they've proven beyond any doubt that we're not living in this ideal world. Art 5 is why my city has been not been shelled yet.
Hitler’s nazism had the Russian Slavs down near the Jews in the racial pecking order.
So Russians see nazism as hatred of Russians, Jews and disabled people in no particular order even if one or two is omitted.
What I mean is nazism is just plain racism with a racial supremacy pecking order.
It’s not just white people Black people can believe in racial supremacy just as Jews and Muslims.
There’s no I’m not a Nazi get out clause because my racial group was victim last time round
Nazism is just hate and anyone can hate
Also I’m not saying scrap nato just create a neutral zone around Russia’s border like Ukraine, belerus, Finland etc.. It appears they just don’t want US bases near them.
Advancing into neutral territory after a treaty is just as much an act of war as invading an article 5 country.
Article 5 is over rated anyway the biggest open secret of the Cold War was the US was not going to loose NY or Washington in a nuclear exchange over Europe.
It just wouldn’t, they clearly won’t fight for Ukraine now and they won’t loose NY in the future just because a piece of paper is signed by Ukraine.
Sure tensions would be super high there may be a breaking of relations a phony war may be declared.
But at the end of the day the US won’t end itself over a country thousands of miles away, just as the USSR wouldn’t have done for Cuba.
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17 May 2022, 10:49 am
