Why is there so much hating on the right on this website?

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04 Jul 2022, 8:19 am

Is there..."hatred of the Right" on this site?

There is hatred of a particular president who tried to steal an election, and tried remain in power for life.

So we had an abnormal POTUS who ...who inspires both abnormal hatred, and abnormal devotion.

Once this former POTUS is off of the public stage then...we will return to the normal level of ...toxic partisan bickering we always had- and come down from the supposedly abnormal level we have now.

Not a mystery, and not a problem.

Whats the fuss about?



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04 Jul 2022, 8:55 am

So I think this is being misconstrued as a matter of "Freedom of Speech". Now personally I believe basing an argument on the First Amendment of the US Constitution to be specious every bit as much as basing such an argument on its close companion the Second Amendment. Those amendments reflected the wishes of like-minded wealthy land-owning slaveholders, in those days nobody ever expected them to apply to the average human being living in the territory controlled by the people who drew up that constitution.

If you want a clear perspective on what the "Right" actually represents, just do some quick research on events in Munich 199 years ago this coming November. What is happening today is an exact echo of what happened then. Long story short, today's "Right" represents a threat to ordinary people and those people can be forgiven for lashing out at those who appear to be promoting sympathy for such points of view.

Bottom line: there is no "balanced approach" in this game, there is simply an enemy and a need to protect the community against this enemy.


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04 Jul 2022, 9:28 am

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Next we will hear "The Supreme Court is ruling against Climate Change." Greta Thunberg and Climate Change Agenda - Illuminati

Are you a flat-earther? In addition to reading the usual sinister conspiratorial significance into various celebrity gestures and poses, this video also claims, at 4:14: "The globe-earth is a lie. Earth is demonstrably flat and stationary. ... No globe = No global warming."


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04 Jul 2022, 9:30 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
flamingshorts wrote:
Next we will hear "The Supreme Court is ruling against Climate Change." Greta Thunberg and Climate Change Agenda - Illuminati

Are you a flat-earther? In addition to reading the usual sinister conspiratorial significance into various celebrity gestures and poses, this video also claims, at 4:14: "The globe-earth is a lie. Earth is demonstrably flat and stationary. ... No globe = No global warming."

Discworld warming? Who here's got Rincewind on speed dial?

EDIT: Not certain if this is consistent with your point, but we really don't need to hate on the Right. We need to delegitimize them as a class.


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04 Jul 2022, 9:53 am

The right generally opposes universal healthcare, higher salaries for teachers, legalizing marijuana, they just overturned the right to have an abortion, they ban books in schools that talk about race and gender identity, they opposed gay marriage, they separated children from their families at the border, they promote their bogus claim of election fraud and think it's OK to storm the capitol and overturn our democracy.



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04 Jul 2022, 10:57 am

Couldn't agree more kraftiekorkie ..(hope I got that right ) Right wing stands for intolerance of diversity Please tell me what is right about that ????


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04 Jul 2022, 11:05 am

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The right generally opposes universal healthcare, higher salaries for teachers, legalizing marijuana, they just overturned the right to have an abortion, they ban books in schools that talk about race and gender identity, they opposed gay marriage, they separated children from their families at the border, they promote their bogus claim of election fraud and think it's OK to storm the capitol and overturn our democracy.


Do you identify as Right?

I've heard these descriptions ^ but they're usually given by the media or by Left wingers.

I was hoping that a Right-leaning member of WP could run through topics like this and explain how their views differ from what they perceive to be Left views.

Your list may be correct. I don't know if that's the Republican platform or if all Right-wing people necessarily believe it all. I'm not American but I've voted for a lot of parties in my life without buying into their entire platform. It seems to me most people have some views which are considered right, left, centrist, or "other" regardless of how they vote. For example I doubt that all Right members of WP believe it was OK to storm the capital, or that they all like Trump as president. Nor do I think any of our Right members overturned RvW, because I don't believe any of us work for SCOTUS.

I'm not defending Right if it really does involve hate, bigotry, and intolerance, but I'd rather hear it defined by people who actually claim to be Right.

Calling all right-identifying WP members to respond:


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04 Jul 2022, 11:20 am

I dont like right wing because lot of their idiologies are harmful and based on supremacy. They don't care about the weak who are chronically ill and are fine with people drowning in medical debt, they don't care about women and the disabled and other minorities. I will continue criticizing the right wing ideologies and if the show fits. If it doesn't fit, then it shouldn't offend you.

I am proudly a woke snowflake they love to call us so I wear the labels with pride.


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04 Jul 2022, 11:31 am

I believe women are actually the majority in USA, but I might be wrong.
If WP members are Right-wing, that means they're developmentally delayed.
So then, are they against themselves?
Do they believe they shouldn't get disability benefits?
What if they do belong to a minority group (Latino, black, LGBTQ, etc)?
What if they have chronic illness?

I'm confused on what it means because I only hear it explained by Left wing Americans.


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04 Jul 2022, 11:52 am

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I believe women are actually the majority in USA, but I might be wrong.
If WP members are Right-wing, that means they're developmentally delayed.
So then, are they against themselves?
Do they believe they shouldn't get disability benefits?
What if they do belong to a minority group (Latino, black, LGBTQ, etc)?
What if they have chronic illness?

I'm confused on what it means because I only hear it explained by Left wing Americans.


Most people with disabilities do lean on the left. Ones who lean on the right tend to be college graduates and they throw their own people under the bus and they wonder why they dont feel safe here? We don't feel safe around them either so we're both even.

It boggles my mind how one can be on disability and still be right wing. They won't get my sympathy when they find their benefits cut or being told by the state to get a job when they are unable to work. They voted against themselves. Just like I have no sympathy for men who can't get s e x when they voted against abortion and women don't get my sympathy if they need an abortion for a medical reason and can't get one because they also voted against it. I call it karma.


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04 Jul 2022, 12:00 pm

My ex hated trans people and gay people and hated the homeless. Then he came out as female and lesbian and it was funny seeing her being oppressed by her own family for being gay and trans and could no longer work so she was living with her dad and trying to get in disability. It was funny seeing her getting karma because she was so bigoted when we were together and now she was facing bigotry herself and it was funny seeing how she would have been homeless if it weren't for her father. So much for being right wing. :lol: it was hard to feel sorry for her when she was this awful and now was a victim of it herself. Now she was shoving her "lifestyle" in peoples faces. Something she always ranted about homosexuals doing. She also said you can't change your gender but she went against it. She meant trans women can't be women of course.

So it's always amusing to see the right wing get their karma when they become victims of their own ideology. I then hope they changed their party.


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04 Jul 2022, 12:15 pm

I guess it's something I can't relate to.

Here, disability benefits are available regardless of which party is elected.
Freedom of gender expression, pro-choice, and gay rights are protected by the Charter.
I go to church, and my minister is gay.
We perform gay weddings. We have trans members in the clergy.

All three of my exes came out gay and / or trans.
I'd say that they all likely voted Conservative, but I don't know.
We don't talk about politics here, not like they do in America.

None of them were restricted from coming out because of politics.

Likewise I know Left / Liberal people who don't believe in disability benefits.

I'm pro-everything: gay rights, LGBTQ, pro-choice, universal health-care, etc. I live in a place considered by many to be Socialist and even at that, I'm more open-minded than a lot of others.

I'm just curious to know how Right wings really feel, or whether the media has blown it out of proportion.

Maybe the OP could clarify how his views differ from mine.


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04 Jul 2022, 12:55 pm

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Most people with disabilities do lean on the left. Ones who lean on the right tend to be college graduates and they throw their own people under the bus and they wonder why they dont feel safe here? We don't feel safe around them either so we're both even.

I don't quite agree. I see quite a few people who are disabled and are probably on disability, but have taken up right-wing causes as a way of compensating for the lack of self-worth they feel due to being disabled. TBH some of these have been scared away because others piled on and they couldn't handle it. They probably deserved more empathy but they didn't understand how some of their statements may have triggered others on the site.

BTW for @IsabellaLinton and any other non-Americans: Access to disability support in the US doesn't increase or decrease as a direct function of which party is in power. The difference is that Democrats are more likely to sponsor legislation that expands the scope of such benefits. However existing benefits continue, by and large. Cutting off peoples' benefits doesn't get one re-elected. I am certain the same is true on most Western countries.


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04 Jul 2022, 1:01 pm

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BTW for @IsabellaLinton and any other non-Americans: Access to disability support in the US doesn't increase or decrease as a direct function of which party is in power. The difference is that Democrats are more likely to sponsor legislation that expands the scope of such benefits. However existing benefits continue, by and large. Cutting off peoples' benefits doesn't get one re-elected. I am certain the same is true on most Western countries.


Thanks Max.
That's kind of what I thought.

I'd still like to hear from Right members:

- How do you feel about disability rights and benefits?
- Equal rights for men, women, and LGBTQ?
- Healthcare

etc.

I know that all Right members may not feel the same way as each other.

I just thought it would be better to hear it from Right members than to speculate and presume.


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04 Jul 2022, 2:26 pm

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I am proudly a woke snowflake they love to call us so I wear the labels with pride.

I prefer to throw the label back in their face. The right in America is made up primarily of American Special Snowflakes who think America is The Most Specialest Country In The History Of The World, and they are Special Snowflake Americans for thinking this and they have Special Snowflake perspectives on freedom that are just more Special than non-American perspectives on freedom.
Europeans only *think* they're happier bc they aren't American and therefore not Special enough to have the Special, Uniquely American worldview where they would realize that they are actually miserable bc they don't live in Specialest Country and ascribe to the Special Snowflake Capitalism that only Americans are Special enough to appreciate.


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04 Jul 2022, 2:39 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
I am proudly a woke snowflake they love to call us so I wear the labels with pride.
I prefer to throw the label back in their face.
Last night I had a conversation with someone who only gets his news from YouTube.  Pretending to be one of them, I warned him about the deepfake videos posted there by "them Socialist snowflakes" just to trigger "real 'Murikans like us" into believing "comic-book stories" about "our truly-elected leaders".  He then asked me what he should do instead, and I told him to watch both Fox and CNN, ignore the analyses, commentaries, and opinion-pieces, and then throw out any claims that conflict with what either network is saying.

I finished off with "Jus' don't let them YouTube videos do allyer thinkin' fer ya!".  He said that seemed like good advice, and then he thanked me.

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