Should conservative Christians be persecuted?

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29 Aug 2007, 9:01 pm

You really believe that and say I can't see reality but you CAN?



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29 Aug 2007, 9:02 pm

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Because certain things are offensive to us because God says they offend Him.

Do you know that this argument you are making offends me?


Gee, ya know, sorry, but... God outranks you.

Of course he does, but I guess we can't ask him wether those claims are actually valid or not, probably he is offended by your claims as well and you don't realise it.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:04 pm

Not the God of the Bible, but the "fake version of god made up by unbeliever" would be.



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29 Aug 2007, 9:05 pm

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i'm going to burn in Hell. :cry:


See ya.

You are going to burn in hell too? I knew it!


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29 Aug 2007, 9:07 pm

The_Chosen_One wrote:
He who is without sin shall cast the first stone.....

How many sins have YOU committed in the past day Raggy? You should be punished to, going by that reasoning.

Notice that Jesus, who was without sin Himself, also cast no stones at the woman caught in adultery in the story to which you refer. That's was a symbol of Him having come to Earth to save people from the eternal death their own sins would normally cause them.

And I'm not casting stones, I'm typing out my views on a forum. If I were casting stones, someone would die of a head injury.

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Oh, and that 'get out of hell free card' is only good for one time. If you screw up again, there is no guarantee you get a second chance.

Really? "For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God." (1 Peter 3:18). Sorry, I can't out-sin God's grace. No one can. But you have to accept it, or it doesn't cover you.
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I, on the other hand, have no worries, because hell and Satan are your concepts, not mine (as was said earlier).

Well, then, that means they won't exist for you. :roll:
Why do you say their my concepts, as if I made them up? Are you too scared to admit thev've been well-known concepts for over 2,000 years?
It's easier for you to just tell yourself that Ragtime made them up on Wrong Planet.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:08 pm

That's not what he meant and you know it. Or do you? Hard to tell with sarcasm. (talking to greenblue)



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29 Aug 2007, 9:11 pm

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First were Jewish Christians being persecuted by the Sanhedrin, the all Christians were under attack by the Roman for 300 years, then the catholic church persecuted Reformers, now we have people being locked in jail for various meaningless charges which just boils down to the fact that the world doesn't want true Christians.

How soon until Christians are going to be publicly tortured and murdered by western governments again? Are you for or against this?



you're a moron.


Not your usual articulate self? Something must have peeved you far more than normal. Could it be... the truth?


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29 Aug 2007, 9:15 pm

Flagg wrote:
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The bible was written by humans, not God.


Were you created by humans too?


Yes, do I need to explain sex?


Don't think you could anyway. But your parents perpetuating their genes through a more or less mindless act is not the same as designing you.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:15 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Not the God of the Bible, but the "fake version of god made up by unbeliever" would be.

But that's the thing, that's the serious question I make, how can you know the god you have been thought, is truly the real one or even if it's real or not.
Forget that.
How can you really know the Bible is the real thing, how can you know all that? you can't, you only can speculate and have the desire and feelings, it is just a matter of faith and emotions, after all. How can this be possible to be unjust with certain people based on things that could be just made up?


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29 Aug 2007, 9:19 pm

'God? God? Is Ragtime and Parakeet correct?'

Tick tock tick tock.......

Waiting.....

Still waiting.....

No answer, stuff it. There is no god. case closed.

But seriously, how can I take you seriously when you CAN"T offer ABSOLUTE PROOF of the EXISTENCE of your god? Believing and faith are one thing, expecting unbelievers to accept your reasoning without absolute proof flies in the face of sanity. BTW, why are you continually trying to convert me to your viewpoint when I have specifically told you that I AM NOT likely to believe in your god? If you want to debate, do it properly, and cut out all this crusading crap. I've never tried to convert you, so at least show me the same courtesy.

Oh, and Raggy same applies to you. You said I haven't shown you any respect... Where was that respect from you in the first place? Under the sofa? bhind the TV in the corner? There was none, because you didn't even want to discuss anything with people who didn't meet your criterion on what was 'truth' and what wasn't. I have heard that you had really nasty viewpoints on women, homosexuality and other things on other forums, and mentioned your Christianity along with those views? How offensive do you think that was to those people? Did you stop your diatribes when someone else got hurt? You, like some others can dish it out, but can't take it. And if being a Christian is anything like being like you, then I want nothing to do with it.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:22 pm

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Heinous? Fact, my dear boy. If he wants to carry on like a self-righteous little Hitler, then I only posted the truth. Grow up and act your age.


Sorry, but you're the one I thought was 16 before I saw your pic.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:24 pm

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Because certain things are offensive to us because God says they offend Him.


God can go suck my cock.


:roll:

That's really mature.

As for all the other trolls- You have no respect for other members of this forum.

You might be disgruntled with how WP is run and the state of this forum section... but you're responsible for it in the first place! Can't you see that? You mucked about, were disrespectful of others' beliefs, and look what happened!

GROW THE HECK UP!

It's not funny, it's not smart, it's just disrespectful and stupid.

Of course christians shouldn't be persecuted. No need to make a thread like this iamnotaparakeet, it only draws people like Sopho and Starbuline. The anti-religion group, perhaps. What do you hope to achieve by flaming decent people? You may feel so high and mighty flaming religion as if its followers were vermin, but the truth is you're just kids with an anti-religious agenda that you haven't even thought out.

You call yourselves OPEN MINDED, INTELLIGENT? Well you don't seem like it. You don't respect religious viewpoints whatsoever, let alone understand them.

Please. Go back to zOMG aspies and stop behaving like an internet mob.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:25 pm

greenblue wrote:
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Because certain things are offensive to us because God says they offend Him.

Do you know that this argument you are making offends me?


Gee, ya know, sorry, but... God outranks you.

Of course he does, but I guess we can't ask him wether those claims are actually valid or not


I agree. Let's let Him decide on the day of judgment.


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29 Aug 2007, 9:29 pm

Anubis wrote:
What do you hope to achieve by flaming decent people? You may feel so high and mighty flaming religion as if its followers were vermin, but the truth is you're just kids with an anti-religious agenda that you haven't even thought out.

I only dislike idiot Christians. There are at least two on this board who I do have respect for. They don't shove their religion down my throat or claim to be being persecuted all the time. You've even admitted yourself that you troll other sites. What have those people ever done to you?



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29 Aug 2007, 9:32 pm

Anubis wrote:
Shleed wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Because certain things are offensive to us because God says they offend Him.


God can go suck my cock.


:roll:

That's really mature.

As for all the other trolls- You have no respect for other members of this forum.

You might be disgruntled with how WP is run and the state of this forum section... but you're responsible for it in the first place! Can't you see that? You mucked about, were disrespectful of others' beliefs, and look what happened!

GROW THE HECK UP!

It's not funny, it's not smart, it's just disrespectful and stupid.

Of course christians shouldn't be persecuted. No need to make a thread like this iamnotaparakeet, it only draws people like Sopho and Starbuline. The anti-religion group, perhaps. What do you hope to achieve by flaming decent people? You may feel so high and mighty flaming religion as if its followers were vermin, but the truth is you're just kids with an anti-religious agenda that you haven't even thought out.

You call yourselves OPEN MINDED, INTELLIGENT? Well you don't seem like it. You don't respect religious viewpoints whatsoever, let alone understand them.

Please. Go back to zOMG aspies and stop behaving like an internet mob.


It's any thread with a Christian theme that they're attracted to. I don't think I should have to put up with people going out of their way doing this any time I make one, should I?

Anyway Anubis, you're the second PARAKEET award winner! As a note, a PARAKEET award is given to people who are truely open-minded about something they don't believe themself. You WIN!!



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29 Aug 2007, 9:36 pm

Sopho wrote:
I only dislike idiot Christians. There are at least two on this board who I do have respect for. They don't shove their religion down my throat or claim to be being persecuted all the time. You've even admitted yourself that you troll other sites. What have those people ever done to you?


Just a question: Is "shove their religion down our throats" a copyrighted phrase or something? I read it about 5 times per day on Wrong Planet. Unbelievers are using it like they've registered it as their official trademark. Calmly answering questions about my religion when asked is just that -- an exchange of information during which both parties are willing, both the questioners and the answerer.


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