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19 Nov 2007, 1:48 pm

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let me ask everyone an important question. If you are correct about all these conspiricies. What are you gonna do about them?

So far all I'm getting is "trying to control people is bad" which I immediately think, duh. Yet no real mention of a viable solution


Such conspiracies can only work if the wider population is ignorant/allows them to happen. So, simply talking about them is the solution.

NT naturally accept the current condition as normal and correct.


There are lots of popular movements and demonstrations against various aspects of those with power 'trying to control people' & most of the participants will be 'NT' (according to popular definition).

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They aren't unaware because no one tells them, they just refuse to believe it. If simply talking about them solved the problem then there wouldn't be one, everyone has heard these theories and either just accept things as they are or dont believe them and no amount of arguement will change that.


There are lots of different aspects making up what some call the 'global conspiracy/NWO'. What it really amounts to is defending freedom, protecting the environment etc. If you show someone something they find difficult or too shocking to believe, they will most likely brush it off instantly. However, there will be other aspects that are apparent - as new laws are passed, more freedoms curtailed and there will likely be some issue that they will feel passionate about and they will become angry and disillusioned at the way it/they are covered in the corporate media. Given time they may come to see a worrying pattern emerging - a combination of events (and in practical terms it doesnt make any difference whether they are deliberately manipulated & orchestrated by an elite or not) that are leading us towards a bleak future.

Whats really important is the way people choose to process these realizations - its easy to fall into the trap of finding another group of people to blame (ie Aspies vs NTs, christians vs muslims, right vs left etc), but that way of thinking just leaves us prone to more manipulation and leads nowhere, its far better when people can learn to see past their differences and look at what they have in common - identifying with ideals of freedom & independance, rather than divisive labels.



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19 Nov 2007, 3:36 pm

Well the NWO may be after us, but I doubt they created autism because that would be rather detrimental to their cause wouldn't it? If we plan to take over the world after all. :wink:


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19 Nov 2007, 3:42 pm

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19 Nov 2007, 9:56 pm

Wow, your a bit obsessed with conspiracy theries and it is you who should read. I've done research into both sides of this vaccine argument and they do not cause autism or autism spectrum disorders. countrary to what the media is spewing. A fact that you should note is that co-relation does not prove causation yet co-relation and a 'rise' are the only "evidence" these conspirists offer. Ironic since you can only calculate a rise with incidence studies and no incidence study was ever done on autism only prevalence studies and those recently before they kind of just guessed. There are a lot of factors these prevalence studies do not take into account as that's not their purpose and they by nature over count to make sure they get everyone. Before you accuse me of not reading, watching tv all the time, being obsessed with pokamon and all that. I spend much of my time reading, don't watch very much TV, most of the time I rarely watch TV at all, and could care less about pokemon, I've seen pictures and stuff they're cute little immaginary critters that I don't have the time for nor even want to. By the way, autism is a disorder not a disease.



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19 Nov 2007, 10:36 pm

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Autism is WORSE than polio. You don't die. But don't worry, the good ol' NWO is making us fat zombie idiots with geeat capitalist processed food crap and pills.


Can I get mine orange flavored? I love orange.


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19 Nov 2007, 10:38 pm

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I will soon be going into the tin foil hat business. $1 each, custom fitted to the size of your cranium.
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That's no fun.


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20 Nov 2007, 8:45 am

Kalister1 wrote:
I will soon be going into the tin foil hat business. $1 each, custom fitted to the size of your cranium.
Note: Dont walk near any microwaves.


Read all about the effectiveness of Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanies (AFDB's as they are known in the business) right here:

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20 Nov 2007, 8:52 am

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Wow, your a bit obsessed with conspiracy theries and it is you who should read. I've done research into both sides of this vaccine argument and they do not cause autism or autism spectrum disorders. countrary to what the media is spewing. A fact that you should note is that co-relation does not prove causation yet co-relation and a 'rise' are the only "evidence" these conspirists offer. Ironic since you can only calculate a rise with incidence studies and no incidence study was ever done on autism only prevalence studies and those recently before they kind of just guessed. There are a lot of factors these prevalence studies do not take into account as that's not their purpose and they by nature over count to make sure they get everyone. Before you accuse me of not reading, watching tv all the time, being obsessed with pokamon and all that. I spend much of my time reading, don't watch very much TV, most of the time I rarely watch TV at all, and could care less about pokemon, I've seen pictures and stuff they're cute little immaginary critters that I don't have the time for nor even want to. By the way, autism is a disorder not a disease.


What is clear is that mercury doesn't cause autism. It is not clear to me that vaccinations don't trigger immune responses that damage the nervous system and contribute to ASDs. A co-workers child developed autoimmune encephalitis the day after receiving a combined DPT vaccine (plus other immune stuffs), and there is evidence that combining the vaccines is more likely to cause such nerve damage than giving the vaccine components separately.

The swine flu panic of the 1970s is a good example of the fact that vaccines do have real side effects and real human costs - more people died of the vaccine than of that flu. 500+ cases of Guillan-Barre syndrome resulted from the vaccine. Which is not to say I am against all vaccines - they can be very valuable and have high benefit/cost ratios. But when giving millions of doses, there will be a cost.

Disorder or Disease? Yes! It is both. I certainly consider the difficulties I have experienced (from social interaction to anxiety/panic, sensory overload and shutdowns) as dis-ease, un-ease and dis-comfort.