"The Omen, AS, Teachers/School and Child Lib"!

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Was wondering why only some children copy teachers behaviours in this way.

Think it may have lot to do with how the brains of Highly Sensitives/Introverts function.
The brains of Introvert/Highly Sensitive people are permanently more active than the brains of Extraverts, even "at rest".

Brains function best at a certain level of stimulation, and so an introvert, whose brain is already more stimulated in even the quietest environments, learns and thinks better, more profoundly, when is in calm surroundings. An extravert on the other hand needs more stimulation to reach optimum functioning, which is why they so often choose to have radios and TVs on in the background.

Consequently in schools introverts will be learning most when things are relatively quiet, and extraverts when things are noisier.
The classroom environment is relatively calm and quiet when teacher is talking/teaching, and relatively noisy when is absent or has set children going on some project/task during which teacher does not speak to them much.

When teacher is talking the extraverts "fall asleep", it's too quiet for them, whereas the introverts drink it all in, including the delivery style of the teacher, and the "wonderful social skills" which create this calm environment.
When teacher steps back and the children get active in groups on various tasks the introvert stops learning, and the extravert begins, copying the behaviours of the most popular or successful children at same time, or the more natural social behaviour of the teacher wandering around the classroom from group to group.

97% of WP members who take the Jung-Myers Typology test score as introvert.

I love the thought that the list of DSdx criteria for aspergers/HFAS is an almost perfect description of teachers behaviour in classrooms.

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Maybe the whole Aspergers/HFAS and ADHD phenomenon is an artefact, of political oppression, of discrimination, and has no more existence than the emperors new clothes, except in so far as many Introverts/Highly Sensitives have learned/use very impaired social skills as a result of the school-experience. ( I am not, so far, suggesting that this applies to the whole of the AS, just Aspergers and HFAS.)

Even Theory of Mind is just another shiny instrument for attacking "inappropriate" behaviour in children.
Adults routinely, and inevitably considering the power dynamic, lack empathy for children, but children are not allowed to. It is adult privilege to be so blind to a childs thoughts and feelings that can send them to school year after year for instance. But adults demand that children understand them.

Psychology professionals and reseachers are beginning to question the theory of "Theory of Mind", and even to doubt the validity or usefulness of the tests.( for instance to wonder what it is they actually measure, if in fact measure anything ! )

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I'm still waiting for that scientific evidence I asked for...

I don't think you're going to get any evidence. This is speculation, conjecture, an idea. That's what we do here, discuss ideas.

That's pretty much what all postmodernist nonsense is, making up crap and claim anyone that doesn't believe the crap is just indoctrinated with oppressive ideologies for maintaining power structures. They make no attempt to actually find valid empirical evidence (because demanding evidence is just a tool of elite legitimacy, don't ya know? )

This is not exclusive to post-modernists. Ouinon may express these views here. You may not make disparaging remarks about the French in general or him in particular. You may present a different point of view, or a different interpretation of the information upon which he bases his speculation.