Whats with the leftwing bent of Wrongplanet?

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I'm guessing it has something to do with the gullibility factor that affects aspies.

Yet again, double standards. Religion can be a force for "good" as well as "evil", just as atheism can, as I said before. People use both theist and atheist ideologies to justify malicious acts. Communism and nazism are prime examples of that, just as selfish economic neo-liberalism is. So, non-theists can't say that religion is the root of all the problems in the world, and vice-versa. Each case should be treated individually and neutrally. However, it's hard to see people lightening up on here, given the climate.

Cool down. Its obvious that many many good people are involved in religion. And many good people are not at all religious. In many social situations it was religious organizations that provided the framework for good people to work together to do great things. But it should be understood that it was not religion that made these people good but that these people made religion good by practicing those religious principles that exemplified their best qualities. You yourself stated clearly that religion can be a force for both good or evil and by that it's obvious that religion alone is merely the medium for the actions and motives of its adherents. All that I am saying is that nastiness cannot be justified on purely religious grounds and when religion exhibits its worst actions it is clearly a candidate for criticism. I am not totally familiar with all the tenets of all religious works but those that I know are a mishmash of all sorts of proclamations that can be interpreted in many different ways. What makes them dangerous is that extremists demand that they all be followed mindlessly and without careful examination and all I require is that they be subject to good sense and basic social decency. If I find belief in the supernatural to be counter to perceived nature and much of what religious people accept without either knowing much about the forces and operations of the universe or the history of the origins of their beliefs then it must be accepted that I have a valid point of view and I should be free to say so.

Thank you, Anubis.

Though I go off on a rant now and then, I like to think I'm a voice of reason on WP. It's nice to know I'm alone here.

Im sorry but I still think religion is a fantasy.

You cant just tell me that its real because you say its real. I need proof. The fact that religion makes you feel good inside is great, Im so damn glad for you, but understand that it isnt possible for some people to walk out on that limb and embrace the intangible. (Did you know that I can fly? Yep I can fly. Im not going to do it right now because I enjoy being "grounded", but I can do it. You believe me right?)

I cant help but view the different religions of the world as the catalysts which have brought about the single greatest degree of hate and mistrust between human beings in the history of the planet.

Whats so great about that?

and having said that I should also say that I think the 10
commandments are good "guidelines" to live ones life by.

It doesnt mean that God is real or that Jesus was his son
or any of that mystical fluff.

They are not laws written in stone.
just good guidelines

The 10 Laws of Moses, aka the Ten Commandment actually were written in stone! On stone tablets, man! It's fine to say you do not believe, but please don't belittle others who do believe. Religious belief takes courage; doing what you are doing takes no courage. This does not make for a display of one's integrity. Insulting the beliefs of others and mocking them tells me you are a Redneck Aspie.

proof?



I didnt



Wouldnt it take more courage to walk
alone through life without ever knowing
the love or guidence of a higher power
believing when you die, thats it?



Rednecks do this? I think you may
have "over-classified" the ignorant.

If America is to be saved from the ongoing rape
by its elite and the parasitic infestation of their new
slaves.. Bible thumping Rednecks will lead the charge.
Whether a hereafter exists or not, I would be only too
proud to join their ranks and lay down my life for my
country in the first wave.

Did you mean "not" alone? Or are you being sarcastic in some warped way? <_< I hope that I sound reasonable enough.

Of course you're free to say that, Sand. Really, religion doesn't come down just to reason. The beauty of it is, that you can be the most "rational", intelligent scientist, and still have belief and faith in some form of "God". Take Einstein, for example, or Freeman Dyson.
Religious extremists tend to justify killing and oppression, and force their views upon others, but that's the same for all those who do not tolerate other viewpoints and different ways of life to their own.

Religions which condemn certain acts which can be considered decadent, well, I understand their concerns to some extent, though I think that the law should be secular, the individual should be free to life their life however they want, to a great extent, and people should be allowed to believe and speak freely, with exceptions for malicious hate speech, naturally.

how about we this society of victimization. those taxes are in place because the majority are complacent about what the government does.


the tax isn't the problem. the hordes of cattle who do nothing while their masters take away more and more of their rights are the problem.

Depends on what the taxes are actually for, and whether people are in a position to "do something" about it or not. Not all tax money is wasted, or spent on the military, or whatver peoples chosen bugbear is.

One point about Einstein. His name is always exhibited as a religious scientist and that should be examined with care. He had the unfortunate habit of proclaiming his ignorance of the totality of the universe and named the compilation of all its forces and components as "God". Obviously no sane scientist would ever assume he or she knows everything going on in the universe. But he was also very explicit in expressing his abhorrence of religious people claiming he believed in the conventional Christian (or other religious) concept of a personal God responsive to human existence. He saw God as a collection of all natural forces and he was repeatedly very clear about this and this conception of God has nothing whatsoever to do with the God contained within all formal religions.

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. - Albert Einstein

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Lots of them. But Alex Plank tends to ban them.

Observe.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt25899.html Tha_Cat (a conservative) banned for quoting a Muslim's own words. It's not hate speech when the muslim says it, but it is when he's quoted.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt25933.html Scrapheap (a conservative) banned for asking why.

Aspie openness to other points of view is a crock of s**t, especially when the guy who owns the boards can ban people for debating him into a corner where his only defense is a pathetic shield of white guilt, liberal self righteousness and craven dhimmitude.

Since you mentioned Alex, I did find something odd about his second post in this thread, you know the



I would say that several Iraqis became more nationalistic after the US invaded. The Baathist party were out of jobs. Several Islamic militia groups formed. Anti-US militias formed. Nationalistic militia groups formed. Even, Anti-militia militia groups formed--ironically. For him to claim "If any Iraqi citizens didn't want to join Al Queda before the Iraq war, they probably have reconsidered once their families were killed by US missiles." dismisses the fact that many Iraqis were brutally killed and utilized by Al-Qa'ida, itself a foreign force who, believe it or not, the Nationalistic militia groups and Shi'a groups fight against.


Aside from that, I find it laughable when liberals claim US killing is uncalled for and that US shouldn't spend money on War, yet at the same time criticize their government for not sending troops to Sudan.

somebody lost $6 trillion in the DOT.CON swindle and to not think they got suckered and where fools, they have to blame their stupidity on something, so put it in their minds it's all Bush's fault and truly believe if Gore became president their stupid investments wouldn't have gone bad.
Add in Dick Cheney, the CEO they have decided to make a poster boy for their Hate of Corporate America.

So all the fools now belong to the Hate Bush Cult and critisize his every move, not because they give a crap about Iraq or anything else. They are just taking out their anger over getting swindled on wall street.

The leaders of the Hate Bush Cult are mostly baby boomers who blew most of their lifes savings and now use their positions in the media and elsewhere to spread their hate and have managed to sucker a lot of younger people to join their Hate Bush Cult.

The housing market added to the number of fools that got taken, so the Cult grew even bigger.

This forum is a good example of the following they have built up, tell a bunch of lies over & over and young people start to believe them.

God Bless The Great President George Bush and the honerable Dick Cheney for saving the country from Al Gore & John Kerry.