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Do you believe in a God or follow any sort of religion?
yes (I'm aspie/autie) 41%  41%  [ 127 ]
no (I'm aspie/autie) 55%  55%  [ 170 ]
yes (I'm NT) 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
no (I'm NT) 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 310

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23 Aug 2008, 12:54 am

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That result of the poll is alot different than i expected.
If you asked it here in the Netherlands to the native population, than 9/10 under 40 would proberbly say they didn't.
Ofcourse when it comes to the population of people over 60 the result would be hugely different.
Than there are also a couple of religious towns/citys in the Netherlands.
Go to any given church here and you wil find the vast majority to have grey hair.
Seeing as the majority here are American proberbly explains why there is such a high percentage voting they believe in god.

Myself i don't really believe in god.
My grandparents on both sides were roman catholics, as is most common for theyr generation here in the south of the Netherlands.
Parents were baptized as Roman catholics but converted to jehova's witnesses for a few years as i was a young kid.
After that we've not had any affiliation with anything relating to religion.

Us Americans are quite behind, we'll catch up though, give us time, so far 9% of us actually use their brains. :P



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23 Aug 2008, 1:00 am

Yes, I accept the existence of God and the Deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
I have a mix of views, mostly from: Baptist, Pentecostal, and Messianic Judaism.



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23 Aug 2008, 1:04 am

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Us Americans are quite behind, we'll catch up though, give us time, so far 9% of us actually use their brains. :P


Funny that. Intellectually, I'm in the 94th percentile.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:17 am

What is more important to me is whether God believes in me. I haven't seen Him around or heard his footsteps and the written material ascribed to him is much too ridiculous to have been written by a God. So I feel left out.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:22 am

Join a church, do some volunteer work in your area. That's the best way.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:24 am

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What is more important to me is whether God believes in me. I haven't seen Him around or heard his footsteps and the written material ascribed to him is much too ridiculous to have been written by a God. So I feel left out.


I have been considering the idea that god may be an interested observer. A scientist of sorts who watches and does not interfere. He does not want to change the rules by acting in the universe like human scientists observing animal behaviour try not to change the rules by not interfering with animals. If this is the case, then god does not want people to believe in him without evidence and since he does not provide evidence, it is right not to believe in him. Perhaps if there is an afterlife god will be annoyed in the theists for going against his will that humans not know about his existence. This would be a highly ironic situation. The theists are the blasphemers not the agnostics or atheists.

I am an agnostic so I cannot say one way or another but I do not have any evidence to suggest that god does exist.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:29 am

I'd probably have more fun joining a circus. And learning to be a clown would not be that far from joining people in church except there would definitely be more laughs.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:31 am

People who refuse to give of themselves and join in their communities are always going to feel left out. Become part of the Body of Christ, I say! Nobody finds God by sitting in their room and thinking about how clever and witty they are.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:33 am

I also suggest getting your head out of your ass.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:34 am

corroonb wrote:
Sand wrote:
What is more important to me is whether God believes in me. I haven't seen Him around or heard his footsteps and the written material ascribed to him is much too ridiculous to have been written by a God. So I feel left out.


I have been considering the idea that god may be an interested observer. A scientist of sorts who watches and does not interfere. He does not want to change the rules by acting in the universe like human scientists observing animal behaviour try not to change the rules by not interfering with animals. If this is the case, then god does not want people to believe in him without evidence and since he does not provide evidence, it is right not to believe in him. Perhaps if there is an afterlife god will be annoyed in the theists for going against his will that humans not know about his existence. This would be a highly ironic situation. The theists are the blasphemers not the agnostics or atheists.

I am an agnostic so I cannot so one way or another but I do not have any evidence to suggest that god does exist.


Clever, but perverse.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:42 am

slowmutant wrote:
corroonb wrote:
Sand wrote:
What is more important to me is whether God believes in me. I haven't seen Him around or heard his footsteps and the written material ascribed to him is much too ridiculous to have been written by a God. So I feel left out.


I have been considering the idea that god may be an interested observer. A scientist of sorts who watches and does not interfere. He does not want to change the rules by acting in the universe like human scientists observing animal behaviour try not to change the rules by not interfering with animals. If this is the case, then god does not want people to believe in him without evidence and since he does not provide evidence, it is right not to believe in him. Perhaps if there is an afterlife god will be annoyed in the theists for going against his will that humans not know about his existence. This would be a highly ironic situation. The theists are the blasphemers not the agnostics or atheists.

I am an agnostic so I cannot so one way or another but I do not have any evidence to suggest that god does exist.


Clever, but perverse.


Why perverse, my good friend?

It's all logical and reasonable. If god does wish us to believe in Him and worship Him, why does he not prove his existence to us?



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23 Aug 2008, 5:44 am

Faith is not about having evidence. Faith is not about having proof. I think I'll put this as my signature so people can see it everytime I post. :roll:



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23 Aug 2008, 5:52 am

In other words, faith is performing the functions of a relationship with no indication that the relationship is valid. That strikes me as quite strange.



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23 Aug 2008, 5:53 am

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Faith is not about having evidence. Faith is not about having proof. I think I'll put this as my signature so people can see it everytime I post. :roll:


Why would God be pleased by people having "faith" in his existence? Why would he not prove his own existence?

He seems to have proved his own existence many times in the Bible through miracles and talking (burning) plants?



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23 Aug 2008, 5:56 am

Slow mutant I do believe you are not taking me seriously. I understand why you chose the name of your avatar.



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23 Aug 2008, 6:00 am

Sand wrote:
In other words, faith is performing the functions of a relationship with no indication that the relationship is valid. That strikes me as quite strange.


Exactly. Well put. Faith is like unrequited love.