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29 Mar 2009, 9:53 am

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Islamic people are people just like non-Islamic people and are susceptible to other, slower, changes that might take decades or centuries but the rewards of patience and compassion are far greater than what looks like a quick and easy solution that will probably be no solution at all in the long run.

Some are, but they provide a safe haven for the extremists. The best way to get rid of the sharks is to drain out the water in which they swim. Then there are the Muslim parents who praise their sons and daughters for strapping on the bomb and becoming Shahid (martyrs). What do we do about them? And the Wahab parents who send their sons to the Madrassas to become proper little killers for Allah.

My inclination is to kill the lot and let Allah who is Merciful and Compassionate clear out the bodies. The Jihadis go to Paradise where they are happy and we are rid of them, so we are happy.

Delenda Islam Est.

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29 Mar 2009, 10:35 am

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And, of course, your views will only harden any Muslims ( and there are probably millions of them) into believing they have no choice but to do everything in their power to react by murdering as many non-Muslims as possible. As Hitler discovered, killing millions of totally helpless people is a lot of hard work. Killing billions of rather fierce armed people is another matter altogether. The magic of air power and bombs has been disproven over and over again.

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29 Mar 2009, 11:51 am

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i wonder how many nazi politicians held similar views about the jews and the "danger" they posed to the rest of the german/european population. the fact that you cannot see this parallel is both hilarious and nauseating at the same time. thank you for helping me to discover this new wonderful sensation. the reason the world is the way it is today is exactly because of bigots like you. shame.

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29 Mar 2009, 12:05 pm

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This kind of talk could get You yourself killed by muslims :twisted:

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As far as Russia is concerned the Russian government is perfectly willing to form alliances with muslim countries, like Iran for example. But what they DONT want are muslims with militant tendencies within their own borders. I wonder how Russians feel about buddhism within Russia.
And Starvingartist: You should be aware that most asians in Russia are ethnically related to/descended from the Mongols, so referring to them as mongoloid is nonetheless accurate even though its considered politically incorrect. :wink:

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29 Mar 2009, 1:00 pm

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This kind of talk could get You yourself killed by muslims .

You are projecting again. I do not worry about such things. I am a free person, at least free enough to speak or write what is on my mind.

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29 Mar 2009, 1:10 pm

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Haliphron wrote:

This kind of talk could get You yourself killed by muslims .

You are projecting again. I do not worry about such things. I am a free person, at least free enough to speak or write what is on my mind.

Delenda Islam Est.

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you're not the first person to try to hide hate-mongering behind the first amendment. rather unoriginal.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:02 pm

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... 9/11 was enough for me. On 9/10 I didn't think much about Islam. On 9/12 I realized we would have to destroy these people...

I expect there are thousands of Muslims out there who've seen their families and friends gunned down by US soldiers who'd say exactly the same thing about Americans. 9/11 was a drop in the ocean when compared to the bloodshed and suffering your country has inflicted since. And I'm not making any judgment in that statement, just stating how things are.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:15 pm

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ruveyn wrote:

... 9/11 was enough for me. On 9/10 I didn't think much about Islam. On 9/12 I realized we would have to destroy these people...

One of us is worth ten thousand of them. Just stating how things are.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:17 pm

ruveyn wrote:

ascan wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

... 9/11 was enough for me. On 9/10 I didn't think much about Islam. On 9/12 I realized we would have to destroy these people...

One of us is worth ten thousand of them. Just stating how things are.

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People like you have a negative value.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:26 pm

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When the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor they killed fewer than 3000 Americans (about the same butcher's bill as 9/11). Here is what we did. We attacked them at their island outposts. and when we got within bomber range will proceeded to burn several dozen of their cities and towns to ashes. In March of 1945 nearly a thousand b-29 bombers dropped incendiary bombs on Tokyo and literally wiped out 16 square miles of said city killing in a single night 125,000 people and rendering 1,250,000 people homless. Then for good measure we nuked two of their cities, which we left unscathed for good measure and in two bombings with two planes we killed over 100,000 people.

That is what happens (or ought to happen) when enemies f**k with the United States of America. We lost the beat on 9/11 but if our enemies do it again (after Prince Obama is out) we will go for blood. Real blood, not this pansy pouf treatment being done if Iraq and Afghanistan.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:31 pm

Henriksson in reply to ruveyn wrote:

People like you have a negative value.

As far as the survival of a nation, of its values and cultures goes, he has the right attitude. It's just that attitude isn't fashionable in these more liberal times.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:34 pm

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You are confusing incidents: Japan is a state; against a state you can have a war, because International Law provides states with mechanisms to end a war on a formal basis. There no "State Islam, so you can't have a war and therefore you can't warlike.

Terror is a issue for the police and not for military.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:37 pm

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You know, I've read the garbage you've spewed in this thread and I must say you are f*****g psychotic. Seriously, you seem to be thisclose to buying a gun, climbing a clock tower, and sniping at any vaguely foreign-looking people you see.

You need therapy, and fast.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:43 pm

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I was there pal. The enemy was identified as the Japanese people. The hatred was so high against Japs as Japs that over one hundred thousand persons of Japanese ethnicity dwelling in the U.S. were incarcerated in prison camps. That included kids who were born in this country and spoke English as their crib language, and by our constitution, were U.S. citizens. We were going after the people, not the state.

Admirial William (Bull) Halsey famously said then when we get through the only place where Japanese will be spoken is in Hell. Our intent and our urge was genocide. Make no mistake about it. The U.S. and Japan at that time were the two most racist countries on this planet. They though white folks, especially Americans were swine and we considered Japs as fecal material or insects to be squashed.

And we do have States that we can attack. Saudi Arabia (who finances al Queda and the Madrassas), Egypt from which half of the 9/11 attack crew came, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. When we go on the rampage (may God will that it is soon and in my day) it is Muslims we are going after, not States.

Delenda Islam Est.

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29 Mar 2009, 2:55 pm

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"Japs"? I don't know if you've noticed, but the proper term is "Japanese" now.

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29 Mar 2009, 3:12 pm

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I was there pal. The enemy was identified as the Japanese people.

No - it was a war against the "Imperial Government of Japan":

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December 8, 1941

JOINT RESOLUTION Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States and making provisions to prosecute the same.

Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
That the state of war between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared;
and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan;
and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.

Approved, December 8, 1941, 4:10 p.m. E.S.T.

Which in line with the formalities of the 3rd Hague Convention of 1907.

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And we do have States that we can attack. Saudi Arabia (who finances al Queda and the Madrassas), Egypt from which half of the 9/11 attack crew came, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

You can't make a government responsible for the actions of its citizen. Otherwise HM Government would had to bomb Dublin a long time ago ...

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BTW: Al Qaeda was primarily paid by the US. It was the Reagan-Administration how started to play with this idiots, following the example of Israel, which supported Islamist in the 1960/70s against the secular PLO. I do not in doubt that this strategy was on the short run very reasonable, but on the long term it produced a monster.

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