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19 Feb 2017, 11:44 pm

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ISIS isn't the people the Pope was referring to, I'm sure, as that's a criminal terrorist organization. Instead, he doubtlessly meant not all Syrians and Iraqis are violent, if you want to apply what he said to ISIS.


And people can include members of a terrorist organisation. As in the people who are part of ISIS, and it still would a correct English phrase. And you could still not describe them as individuals as the pope does.

And do you think that if someone said that the people of the KKK are violent, that he meant to say that all Americans are violent.

And far as I see the point also remains that the text of the pope in that in regard is ambiguous and could mean more then one thing.


By people, I believe the Pope meant ethnicities and nationalities, not individuals and organizations within those groups. Not all Germans were responsible for the Holocaust, just as not all Syrians and Iraqis are ISIS fanatics.


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20 Feb 2017, 1:52 am

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Pardon me, I have been a Catholic my whole life and this current Pope needs to check himself. Most of the Bishops are against him and saying he is the antichrist. He is one of the reasons I have left the Church. Have you noticed that a lot of the Catholics are not supporting this Pope, but the Atheists are? You don't see a problem with that?


Current pope is doing his job. "Once a catholic always a catholic" according the the very sophisticated system of brainwashing they have established over many generations of dominating humans. Of course "Catholic" is not as religious as it seems. It is code for "Roman" which is entirely political... the religion of deified men. The very political system you are governed by. All that being said, this pope is doing his job in getting support from atheists for the "church" role in global politics, he's not worried about losing catholics, as he has said "all must find their own path...(to recognizing and submitting to hierarchy)". They don't care what it is as long as the world is governed by roman government. Is what it is.

Church won't lose any catholics because of him, "once a catholic always a catholic" is a doctrinal law or something. So he's doing his job. Gaining support for Rome's political role.

I know I know, the history buffs are all going to respond with their training ("brainwashing") on queue with "Rome fell(yada yada)..."

but that's not legitimate history. Technically, last Caesar("ceo") of Rome transferred his political authority (executive power) to the Pope of the time. This means that the roman political existence has actually never disappeared, rome just restructured its territories and then started a brainwashing campaign to claim that Rome had fallen, when the real "boss" of Rome for at least 2 centuries before "the fall" was who ended up with the title, after all. Is what it is.

Government is fiction. Man does not have "authority" to "rule". "so let it be written, so let it be done, if you disagree, I'll send a violent one, to punish and subject you to my will with cruelty". This is ancient ongoing atrocity.

Wake up


"Church won't lose any catholics because of him."

You just met one. Of course, the main reason I left was the pedophilia.



No they haven't, you're still Roman. Bowing to the alter of Roman government. Praising and deifying the men who claim "divine right to rule" and still carrying on the Roman traditions, too.

And that's not even addressing the "religious" myths you still subscribe to. Is what it is.


Talk to me when you make some sense. I no longer belong to the Catholic Church. Subject closed.

Now back to the subject the thread is really about - Our Wonderful President - President Donald Trump! :mrgreen:


I don't understand how you think a man who talks about grabbing women's private parts, has refused to pay his workers, and who once tried to use eminent domain to take an old woman's house so he could build more parking for his casino, is wonderful. Are those things really values you prize?


Oh my Lord, not this argument again. Trump's the President, so I guess there is your answer.


It's not an argument. It's a question. How is someone who does those things wonderful?



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20 Feb 2017, 3:19 am

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It's not an argument. It's a question. How is someone who does those things wonderful?


Many historical heroes have a checkered past. Many if not most respected monarchs, prime ministers, presidents and other leaders have said and done regrettable things. In his day, Abraham Lincoln was also greatly despised by half the people of the United States. But what kind of people were they? The people who despise Donald Trump are the type of whiny childish hypocrites who make myriad death threats, have been filmed rioting and pillaging, verbally and physically attacking people and so on.



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20 Feb 2017, 3:29 am

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It's not an argument. It's a question. How is someone who does those things wonderful?


Many historical heroes have a checkered past. Many if not most respected monarchs, prime ministers, presidents and other leaders have said and done regrettable things. In his day, Abraham Lincoln was also greatly despised by half the people of the United States. But what kind of people were they? The people who despise Donald Trump are the type of whiny childish hypocrites who make myriad death threats, have been filmed rioting and pillaging, verbally and physically attacking people and so on.



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I despise him because hes an immature crybaby that whines on twitter all the time and makes sh*t up and just says a bunch of crap and gets upset when people don't buy it and encourages some very negative thinking, I'd rather have George W Bush back than deal with this trump presidency. I don't make death threats, I don't see what good rioting does, someone has to clean up that sh*t and why break property when fof all you know the owners of it might agree with you. I also don't attack people unless they attack me first...as I obviously would fight back.


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20 Feb 2017, 5:26 am

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I despise him because hes an immature crybaby that whines on twitter all the time and makes sh*t up and just says a bunch of crap and gets upset when people don't buy it and encourages some very negative thinking


What I see is many people in general and the media doing what they call whining and crying over Trump's so called whining and crying. I'd say the endless attacks and hit pieces generated by leftist media and celebrity leftist detractors all over TV and the internet are responsible for encouraging all the very negative thinking. I think a person has a right to defend themselves and call out their attackers. Usually a person is admired for standing up for themselves.

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I'd rather have George W Bush back than deal with this trump presidency.


Many say this without talking into consideration the fact that George Bush took us into an immoral war against a country using 9/11 as an excuse when they had nothing to do with it, which cost the lives of thousands of US military and resulted in over a million deaths altogether.

It's amazing how this sort of atrocity along with the Holocaust gets completely glossed over in making comparisons to Trump simply saying and tweeting BS. None of anything Trump has ever done has resulted in the deaths of hundreds/thousands/millions of deaths. But the leftists as a whole act like he has.

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I don't make death threats, I don't see what good rioting does, someone has to clean up that sh*t and why break property when fof all you know the owners of it might agree with you. I also don't attack people unless they attack me first...as I obviously would fight back.


The thing is society doesn't base its perception on what one person personally does or doesn't do. And neither does history. I wish everyone was like you or auntblabby or Kraichgauer, but they're not.



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20 Feb 2017, 5:30 am

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I despise him because hes an immature crybaby that whines on twitter all the time and makes sh*t up and just says a bunch of crap and gets upset when people don't buy it and encourages some very negative thinking


What I see is many people in general and the media doing what they call whining and crying over Trump's so called whining and crying. I'd say the endless attacks and hit pieces generated by leftist media and celebrity leftist detectors all over TV and the internet are responsible for encouraging all the very negative thinking. I think a person has a right to defend themselves and call out their attackers. Usually a person is admired for standing up for themselves.

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I'd rather have George W Bush back than deal with this trump presidency.


Many say this without talking into consideration the fact that George Bush took us into an immoral war against a country using 9/11 as an excuse, which cost the lives of thousands of US military and over a million deaths altogether.

It's amazing how this sort of atrocity along with the Holocaust get completely glossed over in making comparisons to Trump simply saying and tweeting BS. None of anything Trump has ever done has resulted in the deaths of hundreds/thousands/millions of deaths. But the leftists as a whole act like he has.


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I don't make death threats, I don't see what good rioting does, someone has to clean up that sh*t and why break property when fof all you know the owners of it might agree with you. I also don't attack people unless they attack me first...as I obviously would fight back.


The thing is society doesn't base its perception on what one person personally does or doesn't do. And neither does history. I wish everyone was like you or auntblabby or Bill, but they're not.


Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


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20 Feb 2017, 5:59 am

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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.



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20 Feb 2017, 6:36 am

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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


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20 Feb 2017, 6:58 am

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Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, ...

Thanks for the morning laugh.



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20 Feb 2017, 7:57 am

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Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, ...

Thanks for the morning laugh.


Apparently you have an attention span problem that keeps you from getting past the first half of a sentence. That would explain the obtuseness you display at times, others have pointed out.



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20 Feb 2017, 9:43 am

Where is all the rioting,looting and pillaging happening right now?


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20 Feb 2017, 9:44 am

Loud Muslim Call To Prayer In Times Square As Muslims Protest Trump, Shout ‘Allahu Akbar!’ (VIDEO). https://tiny.iavian.net/fd38


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20 Feb 2017, 9:46 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Didn't stop liberals from making the accusation for 8 years, it didn't stop these very same people from painting all Trump supporters as the worst of the worst or 'deplorable' as you will. It's just reciprocation, this is where the rhetoric has been elevated too.

What needs to be done is a rejection of the hard left & it's identity politics in the Democratic Party which is the exact opposite of what they appear to be doing, it seems like the DNC may soon be electing an extremist chair who was once a member of the Nation of Islam as their party chairman. The Democratic Party is not going to win back the voters they lost doing what they're doing, they're not even trying and what they're doing is essentially running against ~50% of the population with no attempt at a 50 state strategy or being a big tent. Congressman Tim Ryan made this point when he ran for Speaker against Nancy Pelosi, he talked about the need to return to an inclusive economic message or else they will permanently lose places like Ohio/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania/Michigan.

The chaos that is enveloping the opposition tells me that Trump should aggressively move forward on all fronts, his 'triggering' of these folks and there insane reactions gets him even more votes. The left is too intolerant, it does not accept that half the country rejects their views and want the freedom to live their own lives so it castigates anyone that steps one foot off their enlightened as just straight up evil. They turn on Bill Maher because he had the nerve to interview Milo who their violent reactions to become more & more deranged to, they turned on Lady Gaga because she didn't commit career suicide at the Superbowl, they attack Democrats for even having dialogue with the president. If Democrats won't work with the president then in 2018 they will be replaced by people who will, does anybody seriously think this is how you win votes? This is ensuring a GOP supermajority in 2018.



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20 Feb 2017, 9:51 am

Iran in new military drills despite US warnings. https://tiny.iavian.net/fcee


Iran launches 'advanced' rockets during military exercises. https://tiny.iavian.net/fd6y


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20 Feb 2017, 11:17 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.



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