Any states that could, theoretically, deny autistics voting?

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18 Jun 2009, 5:32 pm

I was wondering if there are any states in the US that have laws that could, theoretically, be used to deny voting rights to autistics. Considering the view of autistics that many politicians and judges seem to have, this would include states that deny voting rights to people with mental disabilities, deficiencies, etc.

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.


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18 Jun 2009, 6:11 pm

no...;)

We're not really a 'threat' to anyone. For the last 2 centuries, we've been working on increasing the franchise, instead of decreasing it.



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18 Jun 2009, 6:28 pm

"Those autistics, who represent less than one percent of the population, could totally screw up the election. What should we do?"
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18 Jun 2009, 6:35 pm

MrLoony wrote:
I was wondering if there are any states in the US that have laws that could, theoretically, be used to deny voting rights to autistics. Considering the view of autistics that many politicians and judges seem to have, this would include states that deny voting rights to people with mental disabilities, deficiencies, etc.

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.


Only in the case of a judicial writ declaring a person mentally incompetent.

if a person were not sufficiently competent to complete the act of registration to vote, then he would not be permitted to vote. The only persons I can this applying to are outright mentally ret*d individuals who cannot read or understand the regulations.

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18 Jun 2009, 6:55 pm

Possibly if the autistic person is the subject of general conservatorship then the conservator would be able to tell them what they can and can't do, otherwise the only thing that would prevent an autistic person from voting is a felony conviction.


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18 Jun 2009, 7:57 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Possibly if the autistic person is the subject of general conservatorship then the conservator would be able to tell them what they can and can't do, otherwise the only thing that would prevent an autistic person from voting is a felony conviction.


Im looking into purchasing a firearm(most likely a pistol) to make sure that I have the means to resist any attempt by ANYONE to take away my legal rights as an adult....just in case someone tries to do it. Might I add that I am FANATICALLY Opposed to adult *conservatorship* laws except if the person is completely incapacitated( that is, they are either unconscious or totally unaware of their surroundings). ONLY the state AFAIC is qualified to act as the guardian of any adult unable to function by themselves. Private conservatorship is just a recipie for the abuse of authority.



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18 Jun 2009, 10:19 pm

Non-issue.



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18 Jun 2009, 11:09 pm

vibratetogether wrote:
Non-issue.


Good, otherwise I'd say we'd have grounds for a coup de etat.


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19 Jun 2009, 7:53 am

Ironically, I believe voting "rights" need to be curtailed here in the USA.

The Founding Fathers restricted voting rights to those who owned property. While that seems to disenfranchise many, they understood that those most affected by law and policy should be the ones with a say in shaping it. A man who owns nothing has nothing to lose, but everything to gain, in voting his self interest at the expense of another.

Likewise, when I see how ignorant and easily herded most Americans are on many issues (they really know nothing more than what the TV tells them), I feel there should be some way to weeding out people who don't bother to educate themselves enough on an issue to cast a ballot. America is getting dumber each year because the common cattle who are too lazy to learn about the issues can be whipped into a fury by a media figure on a hot topic.

That creates instability in government.

ret*d people are allowed to vote. I'm not opposed to that as a bright line rule, but is a ret*d person able to comprehend the choices being offered and the consequence of choosing one over another? If a ret*d person can vote, is he not likely to vote what someone tells him to vote rather than making up his own mind? Isn't that basically the same as stuffing the ballot box?



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19 Jun 2009, 9:34 am

ruveyn wrote:

Only in the case of a judicial writ declaring a person mentally incompetent.

if a person were not sufficiently competent to complete the act of registration to vote, then he would not be permitted to vote. The only persons I can this applying to are outright mentally ret*d individuals who cannot read or understand the regulations.

ruveyn


Yes, that is pretty much it. If a person is an adult citizen and is not deemed mentally incapable, they can generally vote. Someone with profound autism might fall into that category, but I haven't heard of many controversies related to this.



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19 Jun 2009, 12:46 pm

Thank you all for responding. I am very glad to hear this.


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