Obama deserves nothing/Mayan prophecy come true!?

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Nope. As much as I disagree with Obama, he certainly isn't going to lead us into doomsday.

My thoughts...

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America survived Reagan, didn't it?

Obama won , you have to deal w/ it. My thoughts are this, "Do you want more of the same old thing? " He is differant from anyone who has ever run b4 . US is for the Individual! He's a politician & everyone lies (duh) . He guarantees that things will never be the same. Good or bad, things are going to/are changing . Paranoia about "Doomsday" has been going on forever.


Live while your here now & stop worrying about it. Live & let live! Yeah!

I GAY penguins!

I disagree. He's pretty much the run of a mold centrist Democrat politician with a few slight variations in style and branding, namely his quasi-netroots organization (which take order from the top-down) which he denigrates as the wacky "online audience". Of course, he's spending more than Clinton, but solely because the scale of the crisis ensure his corporate paymasters get bailed out fully.

ya, because he totally didn't overhaul the credit card industry, force the auto industry to agree to tough emission standards, brought tobbacco companies under the control of the FDA, reversed the ban on stem cells, OH SHI-! HE DID DO ALL OF THAT!

1) He's on record denigrating his netroots doners and activists (the "online audience").
2) He has yet to cap executive pay and has made little use the government power the US now has over financial institutions. He's even delegated less power over to stakeholders: members of the community, citizens groups, and other community organizations.
3) He takes advice from people like Larry Summers, which one of the few consistently accurate economists at predicting this fiasco (Dean Baker) has likened to "asking Osama Bin Ladden for advice on the War on Terror".
4) He has escalated the War in Pakistan-Afganistan and is expanding the already collosal Department of Defence.
5) He's reducing auto worker benefits.

Let's not get to other things he could be doing, like repealing Taft-Hartley or normalizing relations with Bolivia. I'd be amazed if he did just one thing, though: give workers the right to manage a failing factory, with compensation to the owners due to a loss of equipment, of course. That would be enough for me and there is no way in the world it's going to happen.

okay, first off, the reduction of auto workers benefits, may I point out that said autoworkers now own the companies they work at. second, he recently had a bill that names a special chief to over see all excutive pay raises and bonuses. Third, afganstan is where the war should be taking place, not iraq, since that is where osama actaully is

1) Source on the workers self-ownership of factories please.
2) The bill is likely teethless as have been many threats to the CEOs.
3) Fighting an insurgency in Afganistan is about as tactically feasible as fighting one in Iraq. There many be moral weight to a War in Afganistan (as there was absolutely none in Iraq) but the only workable option is through negogitations. Bombarding Pakistanis on the Northwest Frontier is only going to produce more ill will and anti-US terrorists in the future.

As for the Mayans predicting doomsday. I think it's a misrepresentation of the facts. The Mayan Calender simply runs out and resets on December 21st, 2012.

(truth, and i have studied archeology of civilizations this past session, so i can confirm this)

I'll skip going over the Obama birth question in detail, as I only know enough to formulate my own opinion that its a joke.


The 2012 thing though, it had interested me enough in the past to want to know why people kept talking about it. I think its the bridging of two stories. The first as you mentioned is the Mayan calendar. The second is Nostradamus's prediction of the astrological alignment of the apocalypse. Nostradamus mentions a sign between signs so to speak, a thirteenth sign of the zodiac. There was a pretty good history channel analysis of his depictions of the stages of end times and one of them was 'the wheel' which was the image of a large eight-spoked wagon wheel type things with all kinds of anarchy ensuing within and around it.

The idea seems to be now that the sign of Ophiuchus the snake charmer is actually the central black hole of the Milky Way galaxy and that Nostradamus's prediction is that the sun will be between our planet and central black hole when everything ends. That specific alignment supposedly is scheduled to happen right around that time.

My thoughts - I don't know if it means much of anything, as in back on 5/5/2000 didn't we have a full planetary alignment? Weren't we predicting all kinds of crazy things to happen then, same with a much more man-made scare with Y2K? For a third antichrist of Nostradamus, unless a certain pinhead in Iran really surprises everyone, I really don't think there's much of a time window left between now and December of 2012 for an utterly unknown superlative a--hole to show up on the scene and take that much power. I tend to take all of this with a grain of salt anyway, as in - I'll believe it when I see it.