Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Age: 72 Gender: Male Posts: 1,351
04 Jul 2009, 9:13 am
You know, agnostic and atheist aren't the same thing.
Take me, for instance. When I was a child I thought I was agnostic. Although I was driven by a deep-rooted belief in god, I wasn't sure about how the differences between religions mapped into reality.
After a lifetime of meditation, study and practice one day the light dawned and now I'm an atheist.
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Age: 72 Gender: Male Posts: 1,351
04 Jul 2009, 9:15 am
You know, agnostic and atheist aren't the same thing.
Take me, for instance. When I was a child I thought I was agnostic. Although I was driven by a deep-rooted belief in god, I wasn't sure about how the differences between religions mapped into reality.
After a lifetime of meditation, study and practice one day the light dawned and now I'm an atheist.
You know, agnostic and atheist aren't the same thing.
You are correct, I was assuming that some would not be able differentiate the two. Atheists say "There is definitely no god." Agnostics will say "There may or may not be a god, but this is ultimately unknowable."
Joined: 4 Mar 2009 Age: 40 Gender: Male Posts: 1,020 Location: Oxford, UK
04 Jul 2009, 9:41 am
Meh, i couldn't possibly vote if atheism and agnostism are considered the same. I consider atheism to be a religion in itself, i refuse to vote for a religion.
Joined: 6 May 2009 Age: 50 Gender: Male Posts: 777
04 Jul 2009, 10:24 am
Musashi wrote:
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You know, agnostic and atheist aren't the same thing.
You are correct, I was assuming that some would not be able differentiate the two. Atheists say "There is definitely no god." Agnostics will say "There may or may not be a god, but this is ultimately unknowable."
This is false. You're confusing Atheism with "Strong Atheism." If you cannot say "I have a belief in a god or gods" you are an atheist. Calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color or off a TV channel. The word shouldn't even need to exist - we don't refer to ourselves as "non-astrologers" or have words for people who don't believe that UFOs routinely abduct people.
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Age: 50 Gender: Male Posts: 276
04 Jul 2009, 12:04 pm
A theology is a teaching about god or gods. Each theology carries with it an definition of divinity or godhood, and often identifies the personality of gods. A theology is a affirmative statement of conviction based on facts and evidence which are considered true by those who hold this conviction.
There are many different theologies, from the most simple with states that there are no gods (given an implied definition of the word) to the very complex with millions of gods and everything in between.
When a group of people are convinced of (nearly the same) convictions (among which a particular theology) come together to create an association around these convictions than the resulting organization is often call a religion. We tend to call these convictions believes.
We can say that atheism is a theology, not a religion. Only when atheists where to create an association of atheists could we speak about this organization as a religion (but never about atheism alone).