Abortion opions, beliefs, and is it wrong?

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What are your beliefs?. what say ye? My opinion is that it is the woman's Choice whether or not to have a baby. especially if she is in a situation where is is unable to provide it with a loving home and the essentials, or if she has been raped. Late Term Abortion is a big NO. By that time, that is a baby that could go into the world and be adopted, or have a family that loves it. If you've carried it that long, why abort something so close to being born? Something you've bonded with, and grown with.

'Murder' means killing someone unlawfully. How can one kill a thing that isn't even alive in the first place?

It's alive. I mean, you are killing something when you use your disinfectant spray, how would an abortion be different?

In the sense that it is an actual sentient being, it is not alive.

On most political questions, I just regard the other side as delusional. Abortion is one of the few places where I see how one could rationally hold either belief.

Bob the Farmer has an apple orchard and is happy. Frank doesn't like Bob, however, and decides to destroy the apple orchard with a flamethrower. That's right, he illegally killed all those apple trees. He gets sent into jail for serial murder.

I think it is best to define 'alive' in the context of murder as sentient beings, which would be most animals.

What of mentally disabled or comatose humans?

This issue has always puzzled me. Normally I wouldn't say it's murder but my opinion has changed due to the issues of fetuses in different stages of growth. It bothers me that if they're nervous system is fully functioning....they're ok to abort.

But when conceived, I don't consider it murder just because an egg and sperm have come into union. IMO, it has no conscious of life such as a brain and nervous system...then I don't see a problem but this is still a sensative issue since I have no idea what a fetus feels and doesn't feel. Even when fully functioning though,I question whether it is viable for life before going through birth.

Last edited by MissConstrue on 31 Jul 2009, 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well, he did illegally kill all of those apple trees. Frankly though, you don't go to jail for serial murder for taking a flamethrower to the henhouse and illegally killing all of those hens either, so I don't see the problem you refer to.

Alive works as is.

Our beliefs are very similar, although i disagree that women should be able to have an abortion for "lifestyle" reasons. I do however understand the almost near un-enforcability of such a rule. I dislike seeing people saying it "should solely be upto the woman", because this implies any reason is sufficient. Girls in school should be taught to value potential-life and such decisions should not be easy.


In the 21-24+ week stage, most induced births are viable and will produce a breathing living child. The only difference between such an individual and you, would be location.


I think sapience works better than sentience in this example. It would be ashame to be carted off to prison for intentionally or unintentionally stepping on an ant. As for abortion, i think viability and potential-sapience are the best indicators for right and wrong.

Wrong. I have gained experience, I have gained memories, I have gained ideas, I have gained knowledge, I have gained a social status, I have gained an identity, I have gained a persona. There sure as hell is a lot of difference between me and something which may or may not become a real person.

Back in the day, it was pretty common for children to die during and after birth.

I think in our modern world....we aren't use to this concept of death expecially when it involves children. It's our natural instinct for most of us to protect our future offspring..

Perhaps why there is so much controversy in this topic. I also don't think this is just a female issue even though the female is carrying the child. In some countries, genocide is encouraged especially by men if the child should happen to be female or with physical defects.

A newborn does not have experience, memories, idea's, knowledge, social status, an identity or a persona. It could also be argued that many children do not have identity's or persona (Considering how they veiw themselves as an extension of their mothers). Would you veiw them as free-kills as well?

That's a bit of a border-line issue, but if the child is unwanted, it should have terminated during pregnancy, and thus I think the child has a few faint glimmers of identity through the responsibility of the people who raise that child to become a true person.

And yet I doubt you approve of infanticide. The argument has to be clearer.

Oh, under some extreme situations (such as really dramatic overpopulation) I think 'infanticide' would be the best course of action, but of course it would be better to prevent these babies being born in the first place, or solve the overpopulation in some other way. But sometimes one must do controversial things to prevent an even greater disaster.

I don't see indications of such acts being necessary, however.