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25 Jul 2009, 12:13 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0j6ynL1_v8[/youtube]

Dude, watch this and lsiten to the lyrics properly, then take them all in and think on it.

IMPORTANT NOTES/APOLOGIES
This has swears. My apologies
This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.
Apologies for anything else anyone finds offensive.

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25 Jul 2009, 12:17 pm

Starrsy wrote:

This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.

it's okay. mos def is black so it's entirely okay for him to use the word.

:lol:

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25 Jul 2009, 12:46 pm

skafather84 wrote:

Starrsy wrote:

This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.

it's okay. mos def is black so it's entirely okay for him to use the word.

:lol:

no its not either no one should be able to use it or everyone one should be able to

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25 Jul 2009, 12:48 pm

ikorack wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Starrsy wrote:

This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.

it's okay. mos def is black so it's entirely okay for him to use the word.

:lol:

no its not either no one should be able to use it or everyone one should be able to

if no one should be able to use it then everyone should be able to use it.

seriously: giving too much power to a word is absurd. especially when the word has been changed to a term of brotherhood.

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25 Jul 2009, 12:56 pm

skafather84 wrote:

ikorack wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Starrsy wrote:

This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.

it's okay. mos def is black so it's entirely okay for him to use the word.

:lol:

no its not either no one should be able to use it or everyone one should be able to

if no one should be able to use it then everyone should be able to use it.

seriously: giving too much power to a word is absurd. especially when the word has been changed to a term of brotherhood.

Many words have their permissibility very much attached to situational context. This cannot be ignored.

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25 Jul 2009, 1:00 pm

Sand wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

ikorack wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

Starrsy wrote:

This uses the "N-word". You cant understand how sorry i am.

it's okay. mos def is black so it's entirely okay for him to use the word.

:lol:

no its not either no one should be able to use it or everyone one should be able to

if no one should be able to use it then everyone should be able to use it.

seriously: giving too much power to a word is absurd. especially when the word has been changed to a term of brotherhood.

Many words have their permissibility very much attached to situational context. This cannot be ignored.

Of course not but situational context is ignored far too often with the use of the N word and is instead defined by the user rather than the actual situation at hand. A user is not a situation.

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25 Jul 2009, 1:06 pm

Such a morally bankrupt way to make money, surely as "musicians" they could try making some actual "music"?

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25 Jul 2009, 1:12 pm

Michjo wrote:

Such a morally bankrupt way to make money, surely as "musicians" they could try making some actual "music"?

They make music and Mos Def is one of the most shining beacons of a good morality within the hip hop/rap community.

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not music. It just means that you don't get it.

/by your standards, Jimmy Page is a "musician" because he ripped off all his music from the original blues artists

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25 Jul 2009, 1:31 pm

skafather84 wrote:

They make music and Mos Def is one of the most shining beacons of a good morality within the hip hop/rap community.

Peddling conspiracy theories with overly simplistic backing music and straight talk? Not to mention wishing death upon someone they do not like?

skafather84 wrote:

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not music. It just means that you don't get it.

Oh, i can guarantee i "get it", perhaps more so than you do. Taking advantage of people's naiveity with baseless accusations and hate speech to make money.

skafather84 wrote:

/by your standards, Jimmy Page is a "musician" because he ripped off all his music from the original blues artists

I do not know of this "Jimmy Page" fellow and i do not know why you brought genre into this discussion. My criticism was directed at the lack of artistic value in the original piece, not the lack of artistic value in the genre.

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25 Jul 2009, 1:37 pm

Michjo wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

They make music and Mos Def is one of the most shining beacons of a good morality within the hip hop/rap community.

Peddling conspiracy theories with overly simplistic backing music and straight talk? Not to mention wishing death upon someone they do not like?

skafather84 wrote:

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not music. It just means that you don't get it.

Oh, i can guarantee i "get it", perhaps more so than you do. Taking advantage of people's naiveity with baseless accusations and hate speech to make money.

It would sound like your beef is with the executives who allow Mos Def to wallow in what you perceive as ignorance rather than with Mos himself who, obviously, doesn't know any better.

Also, who are you to comment on artistic integrity? What do you create?

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25 Jul 2009, 2:05 pm

skafather84 wrote:

It would sound like your beef is with the executives who allow Mos Def to wallow in what you perceive as ignorance rather than with Mos himself who, obviously, doesn't know any better.

Beef? I don't have any "beef" with this song. I just think it's crap and lacking artistic value. What i expressed was called an opinion, a magical concept that the original poster was opening himself upto and expecting when he posted the video asking people to listen to it, analyse it and find meaning within it. I have posted the meaning i have taken from it.

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Also, who are you to comment on artistic integrity? What do you create?

I didn't realise people needed prior permission to comment on art that has been released into the public space by the artistic, stupid me! How do i go about getting permission to comment on this piece of "art"?

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What do you create?

I don't understand the relevence of the question.

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25 Jul 2009, 2:05 pm

Dude, music and politics go so well together!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSUn6-brngg[/youtube]

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25 Jul 2009, 2:34 pm

They should make more educational videos like this...reminds me of sesame street.... :lmao:

They try 2 frame U and say U was trying to sell drugs and throw a federal indictment on niggas 2 show U love....

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25 Jul 2009, 10:28 pm

Hey guys, since Gay is the new Black. Can I can my fellow gay friends, "niggas?"

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26 Jul 2009, 1:49 am

RageBeoulve wrote:

Hey guys, since Gay is the new Black. Can I can my fellow gay friends, "niggas?"

Ooooh....uh...this is awkward...umm...I guess you didn't get the memo:

CNN: Gay is NOT the New Black

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26 Jul 2009, 2:08 am

i'm certain the official account of 9/11 is bogus

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