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This is something that the left has never done: threaten violence in their protest actions.

"I'm unarmed....this time"

"A revolution is coming if you don't listen to us"


This is just pure strong-arm BS tactics and gives more firepower to the other side for banning guns. It's not a political debate when one side has a gun pointed squarely at the other side.

So....who on the left wants to join me in arming up? These guns are pretty easy to buy and people are all too eager to help someone who is perceived as joining "their side" in matters.

Sadly, a revolution is coming. The elites in D.C. disregard what the vast majority of the nation values and does what it wants. That's not how government works, and people are getting sick of it. The legitimate means to effect change just don't work anymore. You can't get real "change" to happen because the elite control who can get into office...always those who will push the elite's policies and more of the same old deal.

Have you ever heard of the Weathermen. They blew up laboratories and killed people in their anti-war protests.

See http://www.globalnewsdaily.com/SDS-Weat ... /index.htm

ruveyn

*facepalm*

Within the last 20 years. Politics and political activism changed drastically during and after the Nixon administration and even moreso with the birth of the pop culture causeheads such as Free Tibet and Live Aid/8.

Also, if you consider the climate in which the Weathermen existed, their acts of vandalism were fairly appropriate....that time was, after all, the time of COINTELPRO and the Kent State shootings. The governmental establishment was becoming more and more violent against any kind of progressive movement, it's only logical in the survival sense that one must strike back. I think even you would agree with that considering it's a part of your base empirical morality that you constantly put on display here.

Well that's not true at all about the left never becoming violent for their causes. Not 1 person was arrested at those tea party protests last week was arrested. Looking at those folks, I'm not too worried about some grandpa going toe to toe with a police man like you might of been of the masked hoodlums who protested at the GOP national conventions.

Just stop listening to Nancy Pelosi and her race baiting allies. They don't fear for their safety, they fear for their jobs. Criticism of the president does not equal racism or wishing violence upon the president. It's funny that this stuff is coming from the same people who championed that dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

I find it ironic that these are the same people who claimed that dissent was absolutely unpatriotic. The fact that no one was arrested further exemplifies the imbalance as many protestors were arrested throughout the Bush years, including sweet little grandmas.

I'm completely astonished at the irrationality of those on the right. We are talking about providing healthcare to those who need it - not sending our kids off to die in an unnecessary war. Furthermore, to the religious right I must ask "Who would Jesus heal?"

That would be funny if it were not so scary, even the sensible sounding folk in the vid had no real idea of what they were talking about and going by the t-shirts, banners and badges most of the crowd reactionary jerks. I love the bit about the Russian Czars taking over the country.

I think in general that's probably true for most protests. Most people are dumb regardless of political affiliation. That doesn't mean that you can discredit the whole cause though because some people can't articulate what it's really about.

by the left i am assuming you mean the left in america. and facepalm all you want, you did post "has never done" and well, that is factually incorrect.




i should have been there with my sign:

"If we dont lower the price of RedBulls
we will all speak Chinese in the future.
Ni Hao. Get used to it!"

And what is it really about again? What precisely is grandpa's problem with providing affordable healthcare to all Americans? I'm sure he enjoys his medicare coverage that uncle sam provides for him. No one seems to be able to articulate their "cause." They all act like a bunch of Glenn Beck puppets, using all sorts of offensive and irrelevant propaganda. As a person of Jewish heritage, I am appalled by the completely absurd Hitler comparisons. I don't even know what to say about a person who can compare Obama to a man who ordered the genocide of 6 million Jews. Irresponsible and insensitive don't seem to even come close, but they're the only words I can think of right now.

All history is relative to its context. I was thinking in the context of this modern left. The majority of the left from that time period grew up to be neoconservatives or John "I rolled over and handed the presidency back to the vastly unpopular incumbent" Kerry.

Bullsh*t. Homicide is never appropriate for a political protest. Nor is destruction of property. The SDS Weather Underground was a bunch of criminal thugs.

It is one thing to gather in public and chant: Hey, Hey LBJ, How many kids did you kill today?. Blowing up stuff and killing people is a different matter entirelyh.

ruveyn

So then you don't support Israel?

What does that have to do with teach Creationism or Crypto-Creationism in a U.S. public school?

My opinion of Israel is totally independent of teaching a religious doctrine in a U.S. public school. I support Israel's right to exist as a free and independent nation. I also support Britain's right to exist as a free and independent nation.

ruveyn

Wrong thread...this is the "people carrying weapons to protests" thread.

I'm in agreeance with you in the other thread. And I was more making a hyperbolic tangent through the vague connection of use of violence to make one's political points.

For once the American right-wing gathers around something other than homophobia or subverting science, and surprise, surprise, it turns out to be yet another completely ret*d cause, done in a ret*d way, by ret*ds.