a letter from a friend (he's a professor in the USA)

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12 Sep 2009, 9:47 am

plastickyness and phoneyness are considered to be esthetic values in American culture. Everyone here is 100 % authentic plastic. People who have no idea who you are hug you and call you " honey ", simply because they need something from you. Americans not only know nothing about the rest of the world; they have no curiosity about the outside world. ( Actually, what I said was inaccurate....they know one thing about the rest of the world....it's not as good as us, because we're the best ).

Everything here is a commodity. In education, this has triggered a race to the bottomn...universities and academic programs are in fierce competion with eachother to put out the most fluff in order to attract the greatest number of stupid students who will pay money for a rubbish degree. Working at an institution which caters to the lower end of the food chain, the results are appalling......in the apartments surrounding mine, as well as on campus, the students party all night long....hamburgers ( they tend to be generation XXXXL ), alcohol, cigarettes ( common among lower middle and lower class Americans ), and orgies. No studying. The naiive kids are buying into pom pom's deceptive claim that they can get something for nothing....by breathing the air here, they're becoming " leaders ". Sooner or later, I suppose the bloated American pack of blubber has to collapse due to its own weight....literally and figuratively....obesity-related health care spending will bankrupt us, and of course, our students will never pay off their student loans....they'll just keep charging more on their credit cards. Eventually, foreign creditors will stop lending us money, OPEC will start charging Euros for oil, and developing countries will stop using the dollar to denominate their foreign reserves. During our lifetimes, the collosus will tumble, and the causes of this will be internal instead of some imagined foreign enemy.

The people here are so stupid and illiterate that the labeling of Obama as a " Nazi " has gained widespread acceptance, simply because he's trying to give these stupid Americans health care. In any European country, his approval rate would be over 80 %. But in this backward country of bloated morons, the best US president of my lifetime is increasingly unpopular.

Please cast a commiserating glance to the north.


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12 Sep 2009, 10:40 am

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plastickyness and phoneyness are considered to be esthetic values in American culture. Everyone here is 100 % authentic plastic. People who have no idea who you are hug you and call you " honey ", simply because they need something from you. Americans not only know nothing about the rest of the world; they have no curiosity about the outside world. ( Actually, what I said was inaccurate....they know one thing about the rest of the world....it's not as good as us, because we're the best ).

Everything here is a commodity. In education, this has triggered a race to the bottomn...universities and academic programs are in fierce competion with eachother to put out the most fluff in order to attract the greatest number of stupid students who will pay money for a rubbish degree. Working at an institution which caters to the lower end of the food chain, the results are appalling......in the apartments surrounding mine, as well as on campus, the students party all night long....hamburgers ( they tend to be generation XXXXL ), alcohol, cigarettes ( common among lower middle and lower class Americans ), and orgies. No studying. The naiive kids are buying into pom pom's deceptive claim that they can get something for nothing....by breathing the air here, they're becoming " leaders ". Sooner or later, I suppose the bloated American pack of blubber has to collapse due to its own weight....literally and figuratively....obesity-related health care spending will bankrupt us, and of course, our students will never pay off their student loans....they'll just keep charging more on their credit cards. Eventually, foreign creditors will stop lending us money, OPEC will start charging Euros for oil, and developing countries will stop using the dollar to denominate their foreign reserves. During our lifetimes, the collosus will tumble, and the causes of this will be internal instead of some imagined foreign enemy.

The people here are so stupid and illiterate that the labeling of Obama as a " Nazi " has gained widespread acceptance, simply because he's trying to give these stupid Americans health care. In any European country, his approval rate would be over 80 %. But in this backward country of bloated morons, the best US president of my lifetime is increasingly unpopular.

Please cast a commiserating glance to the north.


Admittedly the country has some major problems. As an American I am not convinced Obama is the best thing since Jewish rye bread since he is, so far, pretty much a front man for the financial crowd that caused the mess and his health plan has major faults and his refusal to deeply investigate and release full information on the criminal activities of the CIA and the Bush regime and his refusal to accept that Afghanistan and Iraq are total losses all add up to nothing very positive. But there are good people there as there are in any country. Whether they ever become effective is another story.



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12 Sep 2009, 11:09 am

What is he a professor of? And at what university?


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12 Sep 2009, 12:37 pm

Orwell wrote:
What is he a professor of? And at what university?


I don't think that it would be a good idea to tell us that.


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12 Sep 2009, 12:55 pm

Sounds like your professor friend doesn't spend much time in society and spends too much time hating society. Get help for him before he guns down a classroom full of students.


Seriously, that kind of over-caricaturization of such a large sample population is beyond absurd and says more about his psychological well-being than it does about the society he thinks that he is critiquing.


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12 Sep 2009, 2:04 pm

I'm not plastic; I'm a complex hydrocarbon chain...;)



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12 Sep 2009, 3:59 pm

He's definitely right about one thing... The United States is going to collapse. It'll be strange, but we'll have the first negative immigration rate ever in our 233-year history.



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12 Sep 2009, 4:14 pm

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It'll be strange, but we'll have the first negative immigration rate ever in our 233-year history.



And I'd love to be in that number.


Not that I think the US will collapse but moreso that I don't like where things are going socially and how little things are progressing here.


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12 Sep 2009, 4:53 pm

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He's definitely right about one thing... The United States is going to collapse. It'll be strange, but we'll have the first negative immigration rate ever in our 233-year history.

I would be willing to bet that you are wrong on that. America will come out of the recession in the next year or two, and things will be more or less back to normal without any collapse. Our national debt will likely remain high, but China isn't going to suddenly call it all in at once. Immigration to the US will remain at a net positive for foreseeable future, and the US will continue to be the dominant world power.


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12 Sep 2009, 5:00 pm

Sounds like this professor needs to get away from the college and turn off the AM radio. :roll:



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12 Sep 2009, 5:09 pm

I'm guessing that he is at one of the lower-level state universities, like Western Michigan University, or Northern Illinois University, or University of Northern Colorado.

His rant is rather accurate.



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12 Sep 2009, 5:36 pm

Orwell wrote:
I would be willing to bet that you are wrong on that. America will come out of the recession in the next year or two, and things will be more or less back to normal without any collapse. Our national debt will likely remain high, but China isn't going to suddenly call it all in at once. Immigration to the US will remain at a net positive for foreseeable future, and the US will continue to be the dominant world power.


Maybe. Even if so, how much longer can the U.S. govt. play fast and loose with debt and deficit before things really get broken?

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12 Sep 2009, 6:09 pm

I think a slow decline is more likely, possibly with some sudden drops in standard of living.

But no total crash.


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12 Sep 2009, 8:04 pm

The country would be wise to pass some of the socialist measures as far as healthcare and all is concerned or else it's going to be a very quick decline in public welfare. Especially with swine flu rolling around.


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12 Sep 2009, 8:53 pm

skafather84 wrote:
The country would be wise to pass some of the socialist measures as far as healthcare and all is concerned or else it's going to be a very quick decline in public welfare. Especially with swine flu rolling around.


Americans seem to fight about going left or right. Both sides see the others utopia as hell on earth. Of course, forgotten is that middle ground. Inaction screws both sides completely. Americans have to learn to trust each other again, plot a course one of action and then do it. World War II era comes to mind.

Piss around too long and you will have a population of aged Americans in desperate need of medical services, which cannot be provided by ill educated American youth. In the end, either way is better than milling about squabbling with each other.


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12 Sep 2009, 8:57 pm

Orwell wrote:
I would be willing to bet that you are wrong on that. America will come out of the recession in the next year or two, and things will be more or less back to normal without any collapse. Our national debt will likely remain high, but China isn't going to suddenly call it all in at once. Immigration to the US will remain at a net positive for foreseeable future, and the US will continue to be the dominant world power.

I think you're waaaaay too optimistic here. I think we're going to end up in an inflationary depression that will last all through next decade... and make the 30s look like a cakewalk. I don't think it'll be as bad as Zimbabwe, but it still won't be pretty.

The government is reporting the unemployment rate at slightly under 10 right now. But if you put in discouraged workers and the underemployed (who used to be included back in the 30s), the unemployment rate is really at 16.8%.

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And I'd love to be in that number.


Not that I think the US will collapse but moreso that I don't like where things are going socially and how little things are progressing here.

Yeah, there are definitely those things, too. I'd rather live in the Czech Republic, but sadly I don't know the language.