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11 Feb 2006, 12:21 am

Of course I am glad that Iran was referred to the Security Council. However, I am not optimistic that Iran's nuclear ambitions will be ended by diplomacy, because Russia and China are still opposed to sanctions, and prefer taking the Neville Chamberlain approach to the problem. China wants Iranian oil for its growing economy. I wonder what happened to Russia's proposal to have uranium for Iran's nuclear power plants enriched in Russia and sent to Iran. I still think the best solution is to take out Iran's nuclear capability--especially its enrichment facilities, either by a multilateral coalition, or jointly by Israel and the United States. Any country whose President espouses the destruction of another country, Holocaust denial, and who is the world's leading sponsor of Islamofascist terror should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and this should be enforced by any means necessary. I also think that regime change in Iran should become an active goal of U.S. foreign policy.


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11 Feb 2006, 1:58 am

you make some great points, but the question remains, WILL the US do anything. AND are we, as a nation prepaired to take on another front?



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11 Feb 2006, 2:45 am

The facility must be taken over from my point of view. With enough fire power to protect it and the energy given to the Iranian people properly. The people are not it’s government and if they support the government they have been brainwashed, just like the radicals. Inside I believe in all minds there is a part even with the most vicious criminals which is not of it, sort of like Christian forgiveness. Radicalism cannot greet the opposing radicalisms and there need be a unified effort which there is, The united nations is aware and doing whatever they do but still they seem powerless.

Sanctions might make them get even more stupid and think it can win a conflict.

Iraq oil fields, which I know nothing about, should be utilized if they are not already.

China might be a big bad wolf if it needs recourses, who knows what their stockpiles are like for that possibility in a war for recourses. I think an increase in both domestic and international stockpiles of oil is needed for the U.S, but that might be improper it is totally unknown to me.

Recourse wars might be a future problem, but China is at bay concerning T.W. Both are strategic partners economically which would prevent China from wanting war from the U.S, unless the trade deficit becomes even more ridiculous and it teams up with other countries. A world without the United States would be bad, even with its blunders thus far it is far better then any.



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11 Feb 2006, 5:58 am

I say we desperately need to nuke the f***ers! :skull:



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11 Feb 2006, 6:15 am

Sean wrote:
I say we desperately need to nuke the f***ers! :skull:


Then you are exactly the same as them. The opposite to a state of mind that thinks nukes are an option is the state of mind that thinks nukes are never an option.

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11 Feb 2006, 6:35 am

That guy is a nut.

Someone save the elections from the fashist monster.

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11 Feb 2006, 7:12 am

sc wrote:
That guy is a nut.


His theories, (however outlandish they may seem to a closed mind) are based on a wealth of historical references, painstaking research, documented evidence and intensive intelligence gathering over decades from many sources in at least 40 different countries.

...all of which contrasts rather sharply with your credentials of 'I was told by a person who would know. For certain, yes'
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11 Feb 2006, 7:17 am

Nuke war... Insanity..

You do not need credentials to know better son.



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11 Feb 2006, 7:36 am

Im sorry - when you said 'that guy is a nut', did you mean David Icke, or Sean? :D



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11 Feb 2006, 7:38 am

I can't say...

I might influence the imaginary W.P writers elections somehow.



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11 Feb 2006, 8:03 am

sc wrote:
That guy is a nut.

Someone save the elections from the fashist monster.


I'm not a fascist. Fascists need control of the guns to stay in power, as opposed eliminating all gun laws and having the loosest regulation of heavy weapons in the world except for maybe Afghanistan.

Unlike Iran, I do believe in diplomacy when a country is not hellbent on jihad until the infidels are wiped out or time ends. Whichever comes first. For example, I used to be big on the idea of nuking Lybia, we have since resolved most of our differences, and the remining ones, mainly their political and social system can be addressed through diplomatic and political pressure. However, Iran has this notion of holy war and martyrdom through a nuclear attack and supplying nukes to terrorists that we do not have time to address through diplomacy.



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11 Feb 2006, 9:41 am

One might wonder why the only nation to have used a nuclear device on another nation thinks it has the moral superiority to tell other nations whether they can have one or not. I know I do.

If you want to think regionally, I have a hard time letting Israel keep the technology while not letting Iran develop it as well. Israel never had IAEA inspections of their facilities, but we're trying to force that on Iran. Israel never even signed the non-proliferation treaty. India and Pakistan never signed it either. Iran should withdraw from it and demand the same special treatment the others have received, mainly not having to answer to the UN about it.



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11 Feb 2006, 9:29 pm

Israel IS a good nation... Though belief as a national theme is always fualty.


I will keep my stance at the gun guys nuke fashism.. Perhaps a reality check on your end as to the amount of millions killed that are innocent. You know not, you feel not and are selfish not to realize. It's your type that are like the great killers.

In your world they would already be dead... Know this, then think and respond.



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11 Feb 2006, 10:35 pm

sc wrote:
Israel IS a good nation... Though belief as a national theme is always fualty.


Israel is a f**cked nation and their conscripted soldiers penchant for using unwary toddlers as sniper practice has done much to stir up animosity & anti-americanism in the region. As has bulldozing settlements with people still in them (the US supplies the bulldozers)

Some of the trance music is good tho.



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11 Feb 2006, 10:39 pm

Must be the pot running through your blood stream bucko.



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12 Feb 2006, 1:09 am

Supposedly, 2/3 of the population is under 40 and is pro-western. If these people can't understand that their future is in jeporady if they don't do something about their leaders RIGHT NOW, then they deserve whatever happens to them.