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10 May 2008, 10:25 pm

Anyone else hate religion and the ignorance it stands for?
I believed in God at one point in my life.
As soon as I got old enough, I realized that God was just an illusion my mind needed to rationalize the world.
I made a complete turn-around, and now that I'm an Atheist, I'm happier and healthier that ever.
I no longer worry about going to hell or screwing up my relationship with an imaginary being.
I no longer feel guilty when I do something that the church believes is wrong.
Essentially, Atheism has freed me from my spiritual bondage.
Anyone else have the same experience?


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10 May 2008, 10:26 pm

Nope.


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10 May 2008, 10:34 pm

Whoa man...what's going on with that bizarre signature?


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10 May 2008, 10:39 pm

The_Cinephile wrote:
Whoa man...what's going on with that bizarre signature?

It is a quote from 1984, George Orwell's magnum opus. They are the three slogans of the Party. PM me if you want to know more about Orwell or 1984, as it is rather an obsession for me.


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10 May 2008, 10:40 pm

Shocking, another teenager who has figured out all the truths of the universe.


I've spent time with every major religion and most not-so-well-known, and I've considered atheism too. Although atheists will in the most part be very quick to tell you NOTHING ELSE EVEN MAKES SENSE GOD IS AN IMAGINARY FRIEND LAWLERSKATES, I honestly came out of these studies thinking Atheism doesn't make much sense.

Oh well, takes all kinds.



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10 May 2008, 11:10 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:
Shocking, another teenager who has figured out all the truths of the universe.


I take offense to that.
I haven't "figured out all the truths of the universe".
I have come to the conclusion that Atheism works for me.
I have found peace with these beliefs.
I was inquiring as to whether or not there were a lot of aspies that agreed with me.
Is that "mature" enough for you?
Jesus, you have the same attitude as most twenty somethings I've dealt with.
Don't act like you know more than I do.
Don't talk like you have a superiority complex.
And please, don't degrade my opinions because I'm younger than you are.
I think it's healthy to experiment with different religions.
Sometimes, not believing the truth can be a good thing.
Personally, I experimented with Buddhism, hedonism (if you can call it that), Satanism, etc.
They were all completely empty, especially Satanism.
Satanism is Atheism, only you have to be selfish and a total dick to everyone else.
It was incredibly stupid.


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10 May 2008, 11:26 pm

I'm not religious at all.

But overall I think religion is something that is very positive and helps people in their lives.

I have a problem when people take there religion to extemes and also stop thinking for themselves.


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10 May 2008, 11:40 pm

Seeing resurrection from the dead firsthand kinda took away that atheist epiphany from me... of course I wasn't taught to believe in Saint Nick aside from that historical dude, so I have less association of bullshot with whatnot to get in my way of accepting God....


JimmyJazz wrote:
Shocking, another teenager who has figured out all the truths of the universe.


I've spent time with every major religion and most not-so-well-known, and I've considered atheism too. Although atheists will in the most part be very quick to tell you NOTHING ELSE EVEN MAKES SENSE GOD IS AN IMAGINARY FRIEND LAWLERSKATES, I honestly came out of these studies thinking Atheism doesn't make much sense.

Oh well, takes all kinds.



JimmyJazz, I think you cool that you can reject their propaganda... but what DO you accept as factual?



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10 May 2008, 11:46 pm

The_Cinephile wrote:
Anyone else hate religion and the ignorance it stands for?
I believed in God at one point in my life.
As soon as I got old enough, I realized that God was just an illusion my mind needed to rationalize the world.
I made a complete turn-around, and now that I'm an Atheist, I'm happier and healthier that ever.
I no longer worry about going to hell or screwing up my relationship with an imaginary being.
I no longer feel guilty when I do something that the church believes is wrong.
Essentially, Atheism has freed me from my spiritual bondage.
Anyone else have the same experience?


Yes, pretty much exactly as in your post, right down to the "God is Santa for adults" realization at the age of 16.


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11 May 2008, 2:14 am

Atheists lack the definition for irony and hypocrisy.




By the way The_Cinephile, are you by any chance related to former attorney general Janet Reno?


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11 May 2008, 11:01 am

Hmm, I appear to intellectually be atheist, but emotionally a believer. I really don't think there is a god, but deep down I feel there is, and in emotional crisis reach out and am comforted.

It's an odd internal conflict, but one I've come to terms with. Intellectually, does having an imaginary friend who gives me comfort truly limit me, so long as I do not tie harmful concepts, such as hellfire or rasicm, to it? And my emotional side doesn't truly need to convince the intellect - if god exists, she exists, regardless of what I think. To have faith is to accept doubt, not to have absolute certainty. Otherwise, believing in the existance of god would be no different then believing in the existance of my cat.

So I guess that I don't think there is a god, but I do believe - I average out as agnostic.



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11 May 2008, 12:44 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Seeing resurrection from the dead firsthand kinda took away that atheist epiphany from me...


could you possibly expand on this? if it is a personal matter, then of course ignore my request, but i am interested...


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11 May 2008, 7:05 pm

Yes. I didn't come to describe it like that for several years, but yes.


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Seeing resurrection from the dead firsthand kinda took away that atheist epiphany from me


Someone you knew was dead, I mean fully dead with rigimortis set in with flesh rotting and stinking, officially dead for longer than a day and put in the grave dead. And you were there to witness this rotting corpse come alive again, resurrected from the dead? And there's news recording this miracle I'm sure...

Anything less than a day isn't impressive, it happens. Now being dead three days, being embalmed and prepared for burial, and then coming back to the living, that's something I want to hear about. Do go on.


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11 May 2008, 7:16 pm

The_Cinephile wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:
Shocking, another teenager who has figured out all the truths of the universe.


I take offense to that.
I haven't "figured out all the truths of the universe".
I have come to the conclusion that Atheism works for me.
I have found peace with these beliefs.
I was inquiring as to whether or not there were a lot of aspies that agreed with me.
Is that "mature" enough for you?
Jesus, you have the same attitude as most twenty somethings I've dealt with.
Don't act like you know more than I do.
Don't talk like you have a superiority complex.
And please, don't degrade my opinions because I'm younger than you are.
I think it's healthy to experiment with different religions.
Sometimes, not believing the truth can be a good thing.
Personally, I experimented with Buddhism, hedonism (if you can call it that), Satanism, etc.
They were all completely empty, especially Satanism.
Satanism is Atheism, only you have to be selfish and a total dick to everyone else.
It was incredibly stupid.



satanism has good core principals in its pure loathing of ignorance but lavey was a drama queen and way too theatrical so everything is turned into this anti-world manifesto. i agree with the idea of thinking of yourself as your own god and to hate ignorance and always strive for more knowledge. the rest is just posturing and BS.


i'm an agnostic myself just because even though the religions that currently exist in humanity are almost all debunked, it still leaves potential (as low probability as it may be) that there was some kind of constructor or higher power. but then again, i haven't tried dmt and supposedly that stuff is the key to the human soul or whatever.



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12 May 2008, 2:07 am

skafather84 wrote:
i haven't tried dmt and supposedly that stuff is the key to the human soul or whatever.


From what I've read, the vast majority of those who take it come back not feeling, but 'absolutely certain' there is an afterlife. The accounts I've read are wild and vary in some ways, but have a lot of very interesting similarities. People entirely unconnected with each other with no prior knowledge of the 'DMTverse' report very similar experiences...encountering the same 'glass cities', 'elf like people' and so on.
I've also read theories regarding DMT stored in the pineal gland being tied to what binds our soul to this body, as if the brain is a radio transceiver and DMT is the antenna.



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12 May 2008, 3:37 am

Agnostic here. I don't really believe in putting a group of people down whether they're of faith or not. Extremity in anything can be damaging because not one people are going to be the same.


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