Do we still want muslims in our western nations?

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WhiskeyInTheJar
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07 Nov 2009, 2:41 pm

Can this go on, the behavior shown in recent events? Should we kick them out?

[edited for prejudicial language by DW_a_ mom]


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07 Nov 2009, 2:45 pm

Ironically, this comforts me. I am now convinced that all your prievious postings were also just empty trolling. Thank god.



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07 Nov 2009, 3:20 pm

Is this saying that Muslims are bad?



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07 Nov 2009, 3:26 pm

Most muslims aren't really muslims.

Most muslims are gone anyway.

The only true muslims are the one such as the man who killed the soldiers at fort hood.

They must fight to defend their land in self defense and their land is being attacked.

If they do not kill american soldiers or claim they wish to, they are not a muslim.

Equally, if they drink alcohol they aren't a muslim who drinks alcohol, they are not a muslim.

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07 Nov 2009, 3:32 pm

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel...;)

It's a truism that every Mass-Murderer has either be a Trekkie or an owner of The Catcher in the Rye...should we lock all people who have a uniform or the book locked up?


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07 Nov 2009, 3:35 pm

WhiskeyInTheJar wrote:
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Western men should be thankful that muslims are such bastards towards women, they make them look really good by comparison.


This is a generalisation. Possibly even racist.


so a troll, AND a hypocrite.


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07 Nov 2009, 3:45 pm

pakled wrote:
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel...;)

It's a truism that every Mass-Murderer has either be a Trekkie or an owner of The Catcher in the Rye...should we lock all people who have a uniform or the book locked up?


My point is that most people who say they are muslims are not sincere in their beliefs and moderate the religion to suit society along with the rest of the law-abiding people.

And that they are more humanistic than anything else.

Also, if they were sincere and rigid and truly followed islam then they would be murderers because in order to truly follow it they would have to kill.

The logic behind this is actually:

Islam demands murder.
Muslims follow Islam.
Muslims must murder in order to follow Islam.
Most muslims do not murder.
Most muslims are not Muslims.

Capitalisations are key in this >.>



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07 Nov 2009, 4:20 pm

Nope....I'm not into that hate mongering that happens to just be idiocy.

I remember reading about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italian waves to America and each group was heralded as the coming of the anti christ.



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07 Nov 2009, 5:30 pm

why? are they doing something other humans don't do?



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07 Nov 2009, 5:41 pm

WhiskeyInTheJar wrote:
Can this go on, this Islamic barbarism? Should we kick them out back to their prehistoric 'culture'?


1. There are American born Muslims in our country.
2. Our Constitution requires that Congress make no laws regarding the establishment of a religion or prohibition the practice thereof.

Conclusion: We are stuck with the home-born Jihadis whether we like it for not.

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07 Nov 2009, 5:54 pm

We can still monitor them and screen them from the sensitive jobs though.


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07 Nov 2009, 5:55 pm

My parent's always told me that racism came from ignorance and fear, damned if they weren't right on that one.

http://salems2.tripod.com/muslim_contri ... world.html


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07 Nov 2009, 6:02 pm

Aimless wrote:
My parent's always told me that racism came from ignorance and fear, damned if they weren't right on that one.

http://salems2.tripod.com/muslim_contri ... world.html

That list is outdated. They don't do much to advance science and culture now, and muslims in the few places that still do donate money to terrorists.


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07 Nov 2009, 6:25 pm

oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. *palm slap forehead*



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07 Nov 2009, 6:34 pm

John_Browning wrote:
That list is outdated. They don't do much to advance science and culture now.
True, that list covers a period when Muslim nations were powerful and Europe weak, about 1000 ad to 1500 ad. However, that only suggests that who holds power are likely to then influence the rest of the world, hence Muslim nations did so for about five hundred years, now 'the west' has been doing it for about five hundred years. All that is to do with ebb and flow of power than any particular ideology.

I sometimes imagine that future historians will look at American Christianity and ponder how simultaneously America could be the most economically, scientifically and culturally advanced/influential county in the world.


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07 Nov 2009, 7:01 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Aimless wrote:
My parent's always told me that racism came from ignorance and fear, damned if they weren't right on that one.

http://salems2.tripod.com/muslim_contri ... world.html

That list is outdated. They don't do much to advance science and culture now, and muslims in the few places that still do donate money to terrorists.


Not nearly as much these days as in former times (about 800 years ago). But they sure have changed the looks of down-town Manhattan, wouldn't you say?

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