DW_a_mom wrote:
Many people have changed my beliefs; not usually a flip, but often an evolution or adjustment. Give me a rational that I have never considered, and I will have to figure out how to fit it in. Logic alone isn't enough, because belief systems tend to transcend logic, and I find logic to be a very personal thing; one person's logic may be anothers fantasy. Real life applications and examples, however - that is something real and tangible, that one must accomodate. I try not to give preference to who the person promoting the idea is; if the example is solid, it's solid, and it shouldn't matter who delivered it.
Logic is definitely not personal.
Logic is :
"The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning."
"Logic alone isn't enough, because belief systems tend to transcend logic."
"A exceeds B, therefore B is not enough." Is what you are saying, but this isn't true.
"A exceeds B, therefore B is not enough or A is too much" would be better, and then you don't really have anything. This is why logic isn't personal, it can only show truths
unless you do it wrong. But most of what it can tell you is just a bunch of obvious tautologies.
Your example is based on your assumption that belief or faith is "better" than tautologies or logic. You are going by "more is better" rather than taking occam's razor into consideration. A Rude Goldberg machine for toasting bread would transcend a toaster, does this mean it is the right or best way to toast bread?
You've almost done an argument from ignorance/personal incredulity in that you're saying "I don't know that, therefore it is this and not that."
"Real life applications and examples, however - that is something real and tangible, that one must accomodate."
I am pretty sure now that you are a philosophy troll!! !
Too obvious.