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03 Jan 2010, 4:18 am

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06 Jan 2010, 6:24 am

From what I understand the maximum amount someone can donate privately to a political campaign is like $2700. I might have remembered wrong but it was a small amount. Even if the donations were split up into smaller amounts he still couldn't have got more than that amount from an individual without serious legal repercussions. If he got more money than anyone else its because more people donated to him.

Correct me if I am wrong lol



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06 Jan 2010, 10:39 am

The only question that matters is: were the contribution to his campaign legal.

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09 Jan 2010, 9:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
The only question that matters is: were the contribution to his campaign legal.

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Corporate bribery (lobbying) is a moral issue, whether conducted legally or not.



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09 Jan 2010, 9:35 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The only question that matters is: were the contribution to his campaign legal.

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Corporate bribery (lobbying) is a moral issue, whether conducted legally or not.


There may be moral issues involved but it is a functional issue of democratic government. The issue become whether the representatives of the people are responsive to the needs of their constituents or to the requests of the money donated to their continuance in office.



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09 Jan 2010, 11:28 pm

Sand wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The only question that matters is: were the contribution to his campaign legal.

ruveyn


Corporate bribery (lobbying) is a moral issue, whether conducted legally or not.


There may be moral issues involved but it is a functional issue of democratic government. The issue become whether the representatives of the people are responsive to the needs of their constituents or to the requests of the money donated to their continuance in office.


That's what I mean by "moral issue". I consider the democratic deficit in many societies a moral problem.



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10 Jan 2010, 12:30 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Sand wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The only question that matters is: were the contribution to his campaign legal.

ruveyn


Corporate bribery (lobbying) is a moral issue, whether conducted legally or not.


There may be moral issues involved but it is a functional issue of democratic government. The issue become whether the representatives of the people are responsive to the needs of their constituents or to the requests of the money donated to their continuance in office.


That's what I mean by "moral issue". I consider the democratic deficit in many societies a moral problem.


But an elected official, especially if he or she sees value in holding office and that value may be based on genuine concern for the welfare f the country, must consider the cost of re-election. The responsibility for good and efficient government lies basically with a well informed and communally concerned voting public. When donations to elected officials are a prime concern for re-election and the informational sources can be so corrupted by a distorted source of information that the voters cannot determine the actual integrity of the officials running for office then it is not possible for a rational democratic government to function properly. Politicians, whatever their mental intentions, are caught in a trap they cannot escape. That the media, which is a public grant for wave-length access, can charge for their services at an outrageous rate and thereby exclude those who cannot pay, are permitted this stranglehold on public information is a basic corruption of the entire system.