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13 Apr 2011, 2:20 pm

what do you think?

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13 Apr 2011, 2:39 pm

Marriage should have no influence from the law. Which is to say there should be no laws or policies acknowledging or regulating it.

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13 Apr 2011, 2:57 pm

Well, ickorack, that means that spouses don't get to benefit from income splitting, spouses don't get tax benefits from contribution to each other's retirement plans, spouses don't get to defer capital gains or inheritance taxes on gifts/bequests from the other spouse. Spouses don't get recognition for automatic coverage under the other spouse's employment benefits.

A spouse cannot be compelled as a witness in a criminal trial of the other spouse (at least in Canada).

There are thousands of ways that spouses are recognized in law. You really want to chuck all of those out?

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13 Apr 2011, 5:49 pm

Why not?

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13 Apr 2011, 6:29 pm

I agree with ikorack, the government has no business recognizing any marriage. Gay, straight, or polygamist.

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13 Apr 2011, 8:55 pm

The only reason why gay marriage is not legal in America is because people implicitly try to join church and state with their views. A great number of people anyway.

Polygamy is not marriage. Polygamy is sex slavery and should be illegal.

If you are going to give benefits to married heterosexual couples, then married homosexual couples should have every one of those as well. Simple as that.

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13 Apr 2011, 9:43 pm

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is Polygamy aways sex slavery even if I marry two thirty year-olds with masters degrees?

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13 Apr 2011, 9:51 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

is Polygamy aways sex slavery even if I marry two thirty year-olds with masters degrees?

Polygamy is really just passing women around and a male dominating his wives in the relationship. Numerous of these polygamist marriages have already been arranged. Utah could not be a state unless the Mormons denounced it. Usually they do not stop at just two. If you married two women you probably cheated on one with the other. Actual polygamists do not do that. If they have a master's degree, you think they would be suspicious about something.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:02 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

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is Polygamy aways sex slavery even if I marry two thirty year-olds with masters degrees?

I am not talking about mormon polygamy but if three people are ok with it why not?

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13 Apr 2011, 10:05 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

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HerrGrimm wrote:

is Polygamy aways sex slavery even if I marry two thirty year-olds with masters degrees?

I am not talking about mormon poligamy but if three people are ok with it why not?

I had the Mormons and other such things in my mind with the polygamy issue. If you legalize polygamy you have to include those people as well.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:06 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

is Polygamy aways sex slavery even if I marry two thirty year-olds with masters degrees?

I am not talking about mormon poligamy but if three people are ok with it why not?

I had the Mormons and other such things in my mind with the polygamy issue. If you legalize polygamy you have to include those people as well.

you would still have age of consent laws or no?

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13 Apr 2011, 10:10 pm

imbatshitcrazy wrote:

what do you think?

Yes. Separation of Church and state, the acceptance of em into society, the acceptance of the Government staying the f**k outta people's personal lives, and... well... that's all there is to it, nuff said.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:11 pm

If 3 or however many people are consenting adults and want to enter into a contract with each other, I don't see the harm in it.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:11 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

you would still have age of consent laws or no?

Of course. I am just saying it should be illegal to have more than one wife/husband. That has nothing to do with religion at all, it is just something I have seen in other polygamist relationships I have seen on television and it does not seem to work that well with most people. I am also against divorce as well, which is also a reason. You really should know your partner before you make a major commitment such as marriage.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:13 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

you would still have age of consent laws or no?

but maybe it would help me be commited if I had two wifes.

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13 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm

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If 3 or however many people are consenting adults and want to enter into a contract with each other, I don't see the harm in it.

If anything you would have to set a certain number to avoid a mess. Again, divorce is a major issue in my views and it is complete chaos to sort all of that stuff out. So I think one and done. There is a good chance based on logic that there will be problems.

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