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22 May 2010, 10:42 pm

Does anyone here view the mind as merely the sum total of the very hard to calculate (if not chaotic) operations of the brain? Does anyone else have such a "human as a unorthodox machine" perspective on humanity? Does anyone reject the causually obstructive notions of non-physical causation and "vital" mental forces beyond the domain of the physical world?

If so, please help me sustain a witty threat sumarizing the adjective-loaded physicalistic conceptions of life.

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22 May 2010, 11:04 pm

I will desolate your preconceptions of a holistic and unreversable mind through demonstrating my collected learnings of my environment through the rigourous application of the scientific method in parallel with other researchers, by stimulating your photonic sensory apparatus through the medium of ascii text thusly...

I couldn't cram in much wit, a start I suppose.

I don't think that was precisely what you were looking for. I would none the less say something like that (though far more concise) if I was to enbark on an explanation to a person with such beliefs.



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23 May 2010, 1:23 am

Sorry, I believe in a mind, a body, a spirit orangutan, an art fairy... etc etc etc.

I find dualism too reductionist.



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23 May 2010, 3:48 am

The problem is that you're looking to add a total summation of personal experiences on top of a genetic predisposition for different interpretations and, even within that, how one might sway one way or another within those limited interpretations.


Things can't be put into a little box but genres can help us find a general map at times.


/the chaos star reveals all while being too esoteric and broad for most to comprehend fully


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23 May 2010, 8:59 am

Yep. I'm an eliminative materialist.


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23 May 2010, 11:13 am

There just isn't one thing called the mind.



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23 May 2010, 2:00 pm

01001011 wrote:
There just isn't one thing called the mind.


The mind is what the brain and glandular system does.

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23 May 2010, 6:03 pm

The brain builds internal models of objects in it's environment. It also builds one about itself. We call it our mind.



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23 May 2010, 9:33 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Sorry, I believe in a mind, a body, a spirit orangutan, an art fairy... etc etc etc.

I find dualism too reductionist.


Do you believe in a luminous aether spirit as well?



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23 May 2010, 10:01 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Sorry, I believe in a mind, a body, a spirit orangutan, an art fairy... etc etc etc.

I find dualism too reductionist.


Do you believe in a luminous aether spirit as well?

You mean you don't? Crazy nihilistic atheists. Destroying all areas of meaning in our world.



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23 May 2010, 10:03 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Sorry, I believe in a mind, a body, a spirit orangutan, an art fairy... etc etc etc.

I find dualism too reductionist.


Do you believe in a luminous aether spirit as well?

You mean you don't? Crazy nihilistic atheists. Destroying all areas of meaning in our world.


That's just who I am.



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24 May 2010, 11:03 am

ruveyn wrote:
01001011 wrote:
There just isn't one thing called the mind.


The mind is what the brain and glandular system does.

ruveyn


If that is how the mind is defined than there is no argument. The im-materialists believe the mind is more than that.