Dying For Religion

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People exaggerate how many people die for religion. Did Scott Roeder die for religion or did he die because he felt genuine compassion for the unborn? Were the 9/11 attacks about religion or were they revenge for American foreign policy? Were the crusades about religion or conquest?

Christians see that this is bullsh** and say "everyone who died for communism died for atheism". Then atheists say bullsh** about how "marxists aren't real atheists."

I would glady die for being a christian also lots of people are wiling to die for the things they belive

I agree with the first half. Religion no doubt plays a part in making certain conflicts more intractable but there are other facts at work also. The latter part of your statement is a bit of a straw man. Most Christians don't really claim that everyone who died for communism did so for atheism. As to who is a 'real' atheist... well it is someone who does not believe in God (roughly speaking... not inviting definitional debate); most communists would fit that description. That said, the implication is that atheism entails Marxism and I just don't see that myself.

Let me clarify. I don't think all Christians make such accusations but I know that some do in response to accusations by atheists.
Also, I don't think atheism entails Marxism but I think that if atheists can say "Marxists aren't real atheists" then Christians can just as easily say that the crusaders wern't real Christians.

Religion is a very powerful thing it inspires people makes them change their whole way of life the conflict will continue between Jews Muslims and Christians I would though die for my religion I would give up my life for my faith in Jesus Christ I think if some one truly believes they would do the same if they are not willing to die for what they believe they do not truly believe

a. Religion is what motivated 19 Islamic terrorists to fly planes into buildings on September 11, 2001.

b. Science is what enabled 12 men to fly into space and walk on the moon.

: : "Science flies people to the moon; Religion flies people into buildings."

Crusaders and Marxists. Both are groups of incredibly stupid people who got on killing spree because of cults.

Crusaders killed because of their faith. "They were no real Christians" doesn't cut it. They were under the negative influence of religion.

Marxists as well, the cult of personality they were following caused them to kill people that didn't follow the cult. It is the same story over and over again.

Ideologies that cause people to kill each other like idiots (ie: Communism, Religion) should be trashed, rather than be defended.

Yes, religious ideology played a part as a motivator in the willingness to die for the cause, but it's not likely that it would have happened without the political ideology behind the attack. If religious ideology was the sole purpose, a political target with innocent Muslim victims would not have likely been part of the plan.

Without any extreme religious ideology, a suicide attack might have been less likely, but territorial disputes are the most common cause of conflicts between countries; that political ideology would certainly be enough for violent acts of conflict that could have led to many more deaths.

Motivators for this type of activity are complex, and not usually specific to one motivator. One could just as easily state that the IRS motivates people to fly in to buildings, but, of course there are many other circumstances that affected that act of domestic terrorism.

More simply put, the religious conviction to die for a cause was a correlated factor in the motivation for the 9/11 attacks but not the sole motivating factor that lead to the attack.

Even though the terrorists were mostly Saudi, the religion card was used as part of the US political ideology to attack a country other than the national origin of those that attacked us. So, blaming religion also can be a correlating factor for the motivation to go to war.

Political ideology was the major motivator for the race to space that eventually landed us on the moon. Without that as a motivating factor, it's not likely the funding for the development of the science necessary for the manned lunar landings would have become available.

The government hasn't funded another manned trip to the moon since the political ideology was satisfied.

To a great degree, we can also thank this political ideology, for the birth of computer technology, that was funded by the government for the space program.